Comments on: Men and masks in porn http://maybemaimed.com/2007/12/11/men-and-masks-in-porn/ Because 'kinky' is an adjective, not an activity Fri, 18 May 2012 00:29:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Link Love: Inspirations | The Andro-Aperture Project http://maybemaimed.com/2007/12/11/men-and-masks-in-porn/#comment-170056 Link Love: Inspirations | The Andro-Aperture Project Mon, 20 Jun 2011 01:47:36 +0000 http://maybemaimed.com/2007/12/11/men-and-masks-in-porn/#comment-170056 [...] more frustrating than that, however, is that what male submissive porn is out there is total shit relative to the porn available for other sorts of orientations. In such erotica (unless [...] [...] more frustrating than that, however, is that what male submissive porn is out there is total shit relative to the porn available for other sorts of orientations. In such erotica (unless [...]

]]> By: Dawn Davidson http://maybemaimed.com/2007/12/11/men-and-masks-in-porn/#comment-145927 Dawn Davidson Mon, 02 May 2011 18:25:39 +0000 http://maybemaimed.com/2007/12/11/men-and-masks-in-porn/#comment-145927 @Sunshine: I'm in complete agreement. It IS about real world power and privilege. And as tn mentioned upthread, that actually cuts the other way in terms of any money paid *for the scene." The guys who get nasty DO feel "entitled," and being "privileged" in a real world sense, it doesn't ever occur to them not to, or that they're even asking for something fundamentally unfair. Nor does it usually occur to the women that it is this loss of privilege and freedom that they are being paid for in their higher wages in the business. Those masked men can go on to have real world power that the women are unlikely to ever manage, subsequently. The power (and money) is still stacked in favor of the masked men, over the long term. @Sunshine: I’m in complete agreement. It IS about real world power and privilege. And as tn mentioned upthread, that actually cuts the other way in terms of any money paid *for the scene.” The guys who get nasty DO feel “entitled,” and being “privileged” in a real world sense, it doesn’t ever occur to them not to, or that they’re even asking for something fundamentally unfair. Nor does it usually occur to the women that it is this loss of privilege and freedom that they are being paid for in their higher wages in the business. Those masked men can go on to have real world power that the women are unlikely to ever manage, subsequently. The power (and money) is still stacked in favor of the masked men, over the long term.

]]> By: Sunshine Love http://maybemaimed.com/2007/12/11/men-and-masks-in-porn/#comment-145728 Sunshine Love Mon, 02 May 2011 09:16:23 +0000 http://maybemaimed.com/2007/12/11/men-and-masks-in-porn/#comment-145728 It almost seems to me that the ability to wear a mask in porn is emblematic of power. You don't see women wearing masks in porn because they don't have the right to hide any part of themselves from the possessive viewer's eye, whereas men retain that right to anonymity (and thus vanilla world power). To not have to bare all if they don't bloody want to. It's a double edged sword. Men's sexuality is not on demand, so less is asked of or expected of them regarding how much of themselves they exhibit. But women don't so much have that choice. Guys get nasty with girls who won't show their faces, all distrustful and shit, like they are ENTITLED to every part of her. Perhaps more women need to feel entitled to the male form and face and figure and demand access to it in porn. But who fuck's gonna listen? It almost seems to me that the ability to wear a mask in porn is emblematic of power. You don’t see women wearing masks in porn because they don’t have the right to hide any part of themselves from the possessive viewer’s eye, whereas men retain that right to anonymity (and thus vanilla world power). To not have to bare all if they don’t bloody want to.

It’s a double edged sword. Men’s sexuality is not on demand, so less is asked of or expected of them regarding how much of themselves they exhibit. But women don’t so much have that choice. Guys get nasty with girls who won’t show their faces, all distrustful and shit, like they are ENTITLED to every part of her. Perhaps more women need to feel entitled to the male form and face and figure and demand access to it in porn. But who fuck’s gonna listen?

]]> By: Dawn Davidson http://maybemaimed.com/2007/12/11/men-and-masks-in-porn/#comment-132919 Dawn Davidson Tue, 05 Apr 2011 07:51:14 +0000 http://maybemaimed.com/2007/12/11/men-and-masks-in-porn/#comment-132919 My absolute favorite "porn" shows ONLY the faces of people having real orgasms. It's called "Faces of Ecstasy" and was made by Joani Blank sometime in the 90's I think. Sadly, the one I like was only ever released on VHS, and shows no sign of being re-released in any other format. When I asked her about it in email, she responded that I should get the 2nd video, which has been released on DVD. And while that is ALSO wonderful in its own way, it's not the same as the first one. *sigh* In short, though, I most certainly agree with the assertion that hiding the face of the person experiencing the orgasm/pain/sensation *definitely* interferes with the enjoyment of the video. Fortunately for me, I'm very "audio" oriented, so if I really don't like the video, I'll just shut my eyes and listen to the sound track... assuming THAT'S real, too. But if I want to look, I want to be able to see the reaction of the "bottom," to hear their breath become ragged, to watch the muscles tense, and to see the experience register in their face when it's visible. If the whole thing doesn't add up to "real" in my estimation (and I'm a pretty good estimator) then I won't like it at all, much less buy a copy. My absolute favorite “porn” shows ONLY the faces of people having real orgasms. It’s called “Faces of Ecstasy” and was made by Joani Blank sometime in the 90′s I think. Sadly, the one I like was only ever released on VHS, and shows no sign of being re-released in any other format. When I asked her about it in email, she responded that I should get the 2nd video, which has been released on DVD. And while that is ALSO wonderful in its own way, it’s not the same as the first one. *sigh*

In short, though, I most certainly agree with the assertion that hiding the face of the person experiencing the orgasm/pain/sensation *definitely* interferes with the enjoyment of the video. Fortunately for me, I’m very “audio” oriented, so if I really don’t like the video, I’ll just shut my eyes and listen to the sound track… assuming THAT’S real, too. But if I want to look, I want to be able to see the reaction of the “bottom,” to hear their breath become ragged, to watch the muscles tense, and to see the experience register in their face when it’s visible. If the whole thing doesn’t add up to “real” in my estimation (and I’m a pretty good estimator) then I won’t like it at all, much less buy a copy.

]]> By: Women with male gazes: Why “Lady Porn Day” is neither inspiring, nor impressive « Maybe Maimed but Never Harmed http://maybemaimed.com/2007/12/11/men-and-masks-in-porn/#comment-116467 Women with male gazes: Why “Lady Porn Day” is neither inspiring, nor impressive « Maybe Maimed but Never Harmed Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:55:59 +0000 http://maybemaimed.com/2007/12/11/men-and-masks-in-porn/#comment-116467 [...] I’m deeply saddened every time the sex-positive community turns a blind eye to its own minorities. It is not as though those of us with a “female gaze” are quiet about that fact, yet we are consistently underrepresented. [...] [...] I’m deeply saddened every time the sex-positive community turns a blind eye to its own minorities. It is not as though those of us with a “female gaze” are quiet about that fact, yet we are consistently underrepresented. [...]

]]> By: It’s not changing the world that’s hard « Maybe Maimed but Never Harmed http://maybemaimed.com/2007/12/11/men-and-masks-in-porn/#comment-66106 It’s not changing the world that’s hard « Maybe Maimed but Never Harmed Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:40:16 +0000 http://maybemaimed.com/2007/12/11/men-and-masks-in-porn/#comment-66106 [...] asked me to read today, I was actually going to read a piece from my personal blog called “Men and Masks in Porn.” It was about the fact that in most of the porn I sought out, or found, when I was younger [...] [...] asked me to read today, I was actually going to read a piece from my personal blog called “Men and Masks in Porn.” It was about the fact that in most of the porn I sought out, or found, when I was younger [...]

]]> By: Suraya http://maybemaimed.com/2007/12/11/men-and-masks-in-porn/#comment-38734 Suraya Sat, 15 May 2010 22:53:24 +0000 http://maybemaimed.com/2007/12/11/men-and-masks-in-porn/#comment-38734 One of the first things I discovered as I was doing the research that eventually led to Filament magazine, was that most photographers who were capturing men were creating headless, anonymised images of men because they'd heard some bullshit mythology that women preferred that. Meanwhile, I am still yet to encounter any woman who does, most saying that they find that the headless/faceless trope _really interferes_ with their erotic enjoyment of images of men. This is but one of the examples of all the made-up crap around 'what women want' that actively prevents images that women would enjoy from being created. It infuriates me. One of the first things I discovered as I was doing the research that eventually led to Filament magazine, was that most photographers who were capturing men were creating headless, anonymised images of men because they’d heard some bullshit mythology that women preferred that. Meanwhile, I am still yet to encounter any woman who does, most saying that they find that the headless/faceless trope _really interferes_ with their erotic enjoyment of images of men.

This is but one of the examples of all the made-up crap around ‘what women want’ that actively prevents images that women would enjoy from being created. It infuriates me.

]]> By: Mollena http://maybemaimed.com/2007/12/11/men-and-masks-in-porn/#comment-7616 Mollena Sun, 01 Feb 2009 10:09:52 +0000 http://maybemaimed.com/2007/12/11/men-and-masks-in-porn/#comment-7616 An EXCELLENT post, man. *applauds* An EXCELLENT post, man. *applauds*

]]> By: tn http://maybemaimed.com/2007/12/11/men-and-masks-in-porn/#comment-7128 tn Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:13:44 +0000 http://maybemaimed.com/2007/12/11/men-and-masks-in-porn/#comment-7128 um men get $300 max for most scenes women cam make $500-$5000 pay me a few thousand a scene its a career and i retire in a few years fuck what people think, pay me a few hundred its just part time fun and real life calls, double standards exiat as a man i cant charge hundres of dollars an hour for my services well I could but the demand is not close as if i was a woman who can get that rate without trying um men get $300 max for most scenes women cam make $500-$5000 pay me a few thousand a scene its a career and i retire in a few years fuck what people think, pay me a few hundred its just part time fun and real life calls, double standards exiat as a man i cant charge hundres of dollars an hour for my services well I could but the demand is not close as if i was a woman who can get that rate without trying

]]> By: maymay http://maybemaimed.com/2007/12/11/men-and-masks-in-porn/#comment-953 maymay Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:05:03 +0000 http://maybemaimed.com/2007/12/11/men-and-masks-in-porn/#comment-953 Tyler, I think I know that picture. You're talking about the one in the Museum of Sex, right? Take a look at the date on that picture. I think it was taken in the 70's? The cultural attitudes towards sex workers were quite a bit different then, and many, many more women in pornography from that era are wearing masks. I'm not really sure why that is, as I wasn't alive in the 1970's, but it is interesting. Maybe someone with more education on the topic can shed some light on that. Tyler, I think I know that picture. You’re talking about the one in the Museum of Sex, right? Take a look at the date on that picture. I think it was taken in the 70′s? The cultural attitudes towards sex workers were quite a bit different then, and many, many more women in pornography from that era are wearing masks. I’m not really sure why that is, as I wasn’t alive in the 1970′s, but it is interesting. Maybe someone with more education on the topic can shed some light on that.

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