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		<description><![CDATA[As I&#8217;ve said before, perhaps my favorite bona-fide sex blogger ever is Thumper. Beyond simply being my favorite, he&#8217;s also one of, if not the best-known, writer on the fetish of male chastity/orgasm control (linked by mainstream sex-advice columnist Dan Savage),1 which I happen to strongly share with him.&#160;However, almost a year ago I started [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2010/10/28/how-to-maintain-a-not-fucked-up-ds-relationship/">I&#8217;ve said before</a>, perhaps my favorite bona-fide sex blogger ever is <a href="http://denyingthumper.com/">Thumper</a>. Beyond simply being my favorite, <a href="http://denyingthumper.com/2009/03/07/savage/">he&#8217;s also one of, if not the best-known, writer on the fetish of male chastity/orgasm control</a> <ins datetime="2011-02-03T09:16:10+00:00">(<a href="http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2010/11/04/sl-letter-of-the-day-blowing-male-chastity">linked</a> by mainstream sex-advice columnist Dan Savage)</ins>,<sup><a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2011/02/01/in-which-i-am-an-asshole-about-sexual-authoritarianism/#footnote_0_2525" id="identifier_0_2525" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title="I originally intended the prior, non-parenthetical link to point to Dan Savage&amp;#8217;s post, and mistakenly pointed to Thumper&amp;#8217;s post about an article by Dan Savage. Hence the inserted parenthetical statement.">1</a></sup> which <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2008/09/24/top-ten-tips-for-long-term-male-chastity-device-wear/">I happen to strongly share</a> with him.&nbsp;However, almost a year ago I started noticing a <a href="http://denyingthumper.com/2010/03/01/a-sub-or-not-a-sub/">downright alarming absolutism</a> in the way he approached the subject matter in relation to sexual submission.</p>
<p>Perhaps paradoxically, I&#8217;m actually in favor of absolutism in exactly one context and one context only: the belief that <a href="http://malesubmissionart.com/post/175406586/a-handcuffed-and-blindfolded-man-lays-on-a-bed-as">diversity is the only principle worthy of absolutist loyalty</a>.</p>
<p>This is why Thumper&#8217;s essentialist explanation of submission rubbed me the wrong way back when I first detected the unmistakable stink of the idea. While essentialist explanations seem plausible for an individual (&#8220;I am that I am.&#8221;) such reductivism is logically irreconcilable when applied to a group. So, this same laughably nonsensical reductivism is also what triggered me to leave the following intensely harsh (and possibly inappropriately mean) comment on <a href="http://denyingthumper.com/2011/01/31/4002/">Thumper&#8217;s most recent post</a> with regards to a masculine identity.</p>
<p>For my own interests, I&#8217;m reproducing our public thread here.</p>
<p><a href="http://denyingthumper.com/2011/01/31/4002/#comment-3495">I began</a>:</p>
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<p>Since you can take it, I won&rsquo;t mince words. You wrote:</p>
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<p>I firmly believe orgasm control is Right and Natural. There&rsquo;s nothing kinky about it. It&rsquo;s totally clear to me now that literally <strong>every man in a relationship should have his orgasm controlled</strong> by his partner (no, I&rsquo;m not ignoring <strong>you gay guys</strong>, but I need to leave you out of this for clarity&rsquo;s sake). I know that sounds very out there and draconian and like I know what&rsquo;s best for the entire world. Can&rsquo;t help it. You can disagree with me if you want, but it seems that, for a man, the act of committing himself to a woman would take on so much more significance if he was also committing <strong>one of the critical things that defined him as a man: his orgasm</strong>. Not only that, it would make it much more difficult for his partner to drift away. If he really meant it and lived up to his word, the two would be forever locked in a symbiotic feedback loop.</p>
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<p>(Emphasis mine.)</p>
<p>Put simply, this is the most disgusting paragraph I have ever read from you, and possibly from any blogger in a very long time. Perhaps that is because I greatly enjoy your writing and find that you and I share much of the same fetishistic desires. So I am perhaps hugely disappointed, which thus fuels my disgust at such a ridiculous and callously sexist statement coming from someone who has a track record that has stayed relatively clear of such contemptible essentialism.</p>
<p>Tell me, Thumper, while you stroke your ego for so carefully addressing the wrinkle of homosexuality while simultaneously tossing it to the winds, what about the heterosexual women, what about the wrinkle of gender? What &ldquo;should&rdquo; they do with their desires, in your worldview?</p>
<p>On a related note, I would urge you to read the opening chapters to <a href="http://sexatdawn.com/">Sex At Dawn</a>, which I hope will purge you of this pathetically reductionist view of the way men &ldquo;should&rdquo; be. Ick. This paragraph feels like everything I was warning you against in my (admittedly rambling) post, <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2010/03/06/orgasm-denial-does-not-submissive-men-make/">Orgasm Denial Does Not Submissive Men Make</a>.</p>
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<p>I am, in other words, legitimately an asshole sometimes. In case you wonder how I sleep at night, I justify it the same way any other asshole probably justifies it: I think I&#8217;m an asshole about &#8220;the right things&#8221; and not an asshole about &#8220;the wrong things.&#8221; So, yeah, it&#8217;s true I was meaner than I needed to be to get my point across. I hope I&#8217;ll do better the next time, and in the mean time I&#8217;ll acknowledge both my triggers (sexual authoritarianism and sexism) and my errors (making someone else feel unnecessarily bad).</p>
<p>Anyway, the comment did spark an interesting interaction worth reading. <a href="http://denyingthumper.com/2011/01/31/4002/#comment-3496">Thumper replied</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Since <em>you</em> can take it, then <em>I&rsquo;ll</em> not mince words. Chill the fuck out.</p>
<p>Sorry, maymay, this isn&rsquo;t religion for me or political. It&rsquo;s my life and what I&rsquo;m thinking at any given point. I am not here to advance any agenda. I am not trying to please you or anyone. If I disappoint you, we&rsquo;ll both just have to figure out a way to deal with it.</p>
<p>Nice way to start the day. Thank you for your opinion.</p>
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<p>To which <a href="http://denyingthumper.com/2011/01/31/4002/#comment-3497">I said</a>:</p>
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<p>I can take it, and you don&rsquo;t have to mince words. Sarcasm, however, seems beneath you. Or maybe it&rsquo;s not? I wasn&rsquo;t kind, but I was direct.</p>
<p>Anyway, I&rsquo;m sorry I contributed to a bad morning. That sucks. I&rsquo;m just headed to bed and didn&rsquo;t think about your sleep schedule.</p>
<p>You may never take an interest in politics, but politics will take an interest in you. Same thing as what you seem unwilling to acknowledge about my other post, too. Sigh.</p>
<p>As for religion&hellip;well, seeing as how you&rsquo;re the one who brought that up, I&rsquo;m struck with the unshakable notion that your views <em>are</em> a religion for you.</p>
<p>Such (religious?) adherence to an ignorantly essentialist view of human maleness, or indeed of any human characteristic, is perhaps the most destructive form of self-centeredness, for you declare others&rsquo; expressions illegitimate. And I say this, I hasten to add, as a self-identified man who not only would, but <em>already has</em> wholly subscribed to your beliefs for my own life.</p>
<p>I hope you consider these facts the next time you grant yourself absolution because &ldquo;this isn&rsquo;t&hellip;political.&rdquo;</p>
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<p>Then, circling back to answer my initial criticism, <a href="http://denyingthumper.com/2011/01/31/4002/#comment-3498">Thumper wrote</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Now that I&rsquo;ve had a bit of caffeine, I&rsquo;ll reply to your comment by saying the intention of my post was to describe a strategy in which men (with penises) and women (with the other part) in traditional marriages or long-term relationships could experience greater degrees of sexual intimacy and satisfaction. That should explain my (admittedly flippant) dismissal of the &ldquo;gay guys&rdquo; and, I suppose, by extension anyone not in the aforementioned gender group.</p>
<p>I loved Sex at Dawn. Thought it was great. And, truth be told, I think we humans have totally screwed with ourselves and our sexuality. However, I&rsquo;m also a pragmatist. I live in this time and under these social norms and am married to a devout monogamist. Therefore, while I agree that my POV does not align with the vision of human sexuality presented in the book, I think it very much compliments the version of human sexuality that plays out in my house. Which, at the end of the day, is all I really care about. Were I like you (young, passionate, not married with two kids and a mortgage), I&rsquo;m sure my position would be different. Alas, I am not. And I&rsquo;m very happy not to be.</p>
<p>I have no interest in getting into a multi-thousand word debate about this with you. If you feel the need to rail against my pathetic, narrow, disgusting and icky words, please do so on your own blog. Don&rsquo;t be upset, though, if I don&rsquo;t ever read it. As I said before, sex is not political for me. It&rsquo;s personal. You can go fight the good fight. Leave me out of it.</p>
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<p>And, finally, <a href="http://denyingthumper.com/2011/01/31/4002/#comment-3499">my reply</a>:</p>
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<p>I think that&rsquo;s all peachy keen. Until this:</p>
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<p>As I said before, sex is not political for me. It&rsquo;s personal. You can go fight the good fight. Leave me out of it.</p>
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<p>You are the pre-eminent blogger about male orgasm control on the entire Internet, on par with Tom Allen. You are political whether you like it or not.</p>
<p>If you want to treat your sex life as wholly personal and not the least bit political, then you can not blog publicly. Otherwise, and I&rsquo;m not sorry about this, you can&rsquo;t have it both ways.</p>
<p>My final words on the issue, since I don&rsquo;t want to overstay my welcome (and you have been generous with my characteristic harshness, so I thank you) will be to make clear that I care about this with &ldquo;passion&rdquo; precisely because we share a fetish and every single time I talk about it I reference this blog as one of the only sensible places on the entire Internet to learn about this fetish. It would upset me greatly to need to start disclaiming my admiration for you due to an increasing amount of relatively careless and flippant remarks specifically due to how often I cite your otherwise fantastic writing.</p>
<p>I hope I didn&rsquo;t ruin your day. I shouldn&rsquo;t have that much power over you. Thanks again for your generosity with your comments section.</p>
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<p>There is, of course, something to be said for Thumper&#8217;s argument that we live in a particular world, with particular realities, and not some other world with some other realities. However, we know what we can say about that: it needs changing. I remain baffled by implications such as his that, thanks to the way things are, ideals like sexual egalitarianism even&#8211;and perhaps <em>especially</em>&#8211;when it comes to <a href="http://malesubmissionart.com/post/215415525/a-shirtless-man-whose-hands-are-tied-at-the-back">consciously constructed power imbalances</a> are the illusory fantasies, rather than the other way around. The ideals I hold about sex are not the illusions, they are the core of our humanity, buried under eons of cultural sediments (stigma, collective phobias, mass hysterics like religion, and so on).</p>
<p>If reality was, in fact, as <a href="http://days.maybemaimed.com/post/2693278259/gender-essentialist-language-neglects-the">gender essentialist</a> as Thumper described it, he would not have been able to actualize the relationship he currently enjoys precisely because <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2007/09/13/how-not-to-fuck-up-a-ds-relationship/">such a relationship is founded on the very egalitarian ideals</a> his thesis dismisses. He shoots himself in the foot with his own words, same as I sometimes do by forgetting to use honey in situations where it would catch more flies than vinegar.</p>
<p>Maybe next time Thumper and I talk, we will both have learned a thing or two. <ins datetime="2011-02-03T09:22:52+00:00">(<a href="http://status.maymay.net/notice/8927">If there is a next time.</a>)</ins></p>
<p><ins datetime="2011-02-04T01:33:29+00:00"><strong>Update:</strong> Thumper&#8217;s got a <a href="http://denyingthumper.com/2011/02/03/the-year-of-the-rabbit/">reply on his blog</a>. It&#8217;s worth a read, so check it out. <acronym title="Too long; didn't read">TL;DR</acronym> version and my reaction: Thumper affirms maymay&#8217;s asshole-ishness and will &#8220;amputate him from my life&#8221; (sic.) (well, okay, but owch), asserts that our worldviews are irreconcilable and as part of that his blog &#8220;is not a platform for any kind of activism&#8221; (except, as I keep reminding him, <a href="https://twitter.com/maymaym/status/33335314802016256">when it kind of is</a>, which says more about how narrowly Thumper construes activism and how widely I do) and will continue to write his blog while abdicating any recognition of the influence he has. All right then. Truce?</ins></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some months back, while I was still using my sanitized outside voice, Alice Archer contacted me for an article she was doing about &#8220;The Changing Face of Female Domination,&#8221; slated to be published in <a href="http://filamentmagazine.com/">Filament Magazine</a>. Now that <a href="http://days.maybemaimed.com/post/1696868622/its-hard-to-have-a-serious-discussion-on-the">the article is out</a> (a <a href="http://issuu.com/filamentmag/docs/iss7preview">preview</a> is available if you turn to page 34, and have Flash), I thought I&#8217;d share a (slightly edited) version of the brief email exchange we had in which she asked me some questions and I provided what sound to me like overly-polite answers. Although I&#8217;m quoted extensively in the Filament article, it&#8217;s a decidedly different article with a decidedly different narrative, so I would encourage you to <a href="http://www.filamentmagazine.com/Buy.aspx">pick up a copy</a> (of Issue 7), if not &#8220;for the articles,&#8221; then for the pictures of pretty boys.</p>
<h2>Questions for Filament Article on F/m</h2>
<p><strong>Alice Archer: [Can you provide s]ome biographical information &#8211; name, age, location, links to the relevant blogs you write[?]</strong></p>
<p><strong>Maymay:</strong> I&#8217;m maymay, a 26 year old guy currently living in San Francisco. I spent the majority of my life in New York City, however, and I spent a year living in Sydney, Australia. I wrote about the BDSM communities in all three of these cities, mostly at my personal blog at maybemaimed.com but also a little bit at my photo blog about male submissive imagery at <a href="http://MaleSubmissionArt.com/">MaleSubmissionArt.com</a>.</p>
<p><strong>AA: Do you think that F/m suffers from an image problem? If so, what, in your view, is causing this?</strong></p>
<p>Well, yes, and the question raises a few distinct points that are important to understand. Although the F/m imagery we generally see presents only one kind of relationship between dominant women and submissive men, neither dominant women nor submissive men are monolithic groups. Moreover, although dominant women and submissive men are often lumped into the same group together, it&#8217;s also important to think about both groups individually.</p>
<p>The truth is that while <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2009/07/17/i-too-kink-on-bdsm-stereotypes/">stereotypical depictions of F/m relationships may be desirable</a> for some people, they by no means reflect all the desires or the reality for all of us. So, to think of F/m imagery as a monolithic group is to actively reinforce the image problem itself. Let me explain.</p>
<p>Both the <a href="http://malesubmissionart.com/post/225699907/a-man-is-stripped-by-a-group-of-women-who-lewdly">content</a> and <a href="http://malesubmissionart.com/post/879252420/a-clothed-man-is-bound-to-a-heavy-chair-with-long">context of the imagery needs to be examined</a>. Overwhelmingly, when people discuss female-dominant sexual imagery, they refer to the leather or <a href="http://malesubmissionart.com/post/91850568/an-unimportant-uninteresting-man-is-hidden-behind">latex clad dominatrix, wearing stilettos, snarling and wielding a whip</a>. There are (broadly defined) four groupings here, since generally people who create F/m imagery also view some, if only the images they themselves create:</p>
<ol>
<li>People who create F/m imagery and for whom it resonates accurately.</li>
<li>People who create F/m imagery and for whom it does not resonate.</li>
<li>People who view F/m imagery and for whom it resonates accurately.</li>
<li>People who view F/m imagery and for whom it does not resonate.</li>
</ol>
<p>Far and away, the most well-represented groups are the ones who create the imagery, not the ones who only view it. Since the creation of sexually-related imagery is <a href="http://malesubmissionart.com/post/91994257/a-half-dressed-man-stares-across-a-room-at-a-woman">so thoroughly influenced by commercial interests</a>, many of these people are either professional models, pro-dominants, or the like. Whether or not these people engage in F/m relationships as a function of their personal pursuit of happiness is, in the production context, irrelevant. People are often surprised to learn how many women appearing in dominant roles in imagery do not play a dominant role in their personal sexual relationships.</p>
<p>Herein lies the crux of the problem: in the over-arching culture as well as in the BDSM subculture (despite some BDSM&#8217;ers loud objections to this reality), representations of powerful women are extremely limited. Pictures of dominant women are so overbearingly policed, often focusing on wardrobe above all else, that for a long time the overwhelming majority of culturally acceptable representations of women in power were images of leather-clad dominatrices. And while I&#8217;m sure some narrow sliver of the populace thoroughly enjoys such stereotypes, it offers <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2007/12/11/men-and-masks-in-porn/">very little in the way of sexual gratification for most dominant women</a> or submissive men.</p>
<p>As a result of this cultural influence, most BDSM communities became ghettos for the small group of people who enjoyed the single, narrow interpretation of F/m relationships that are available there, drawing more of the same into the community, and repeating the cycle of exclusion. Meanwhile, dominant women who, for instance, prefer to play tenderly and in hoodies and submissive men who, for instance, enjoy feeling cared for instead of being called names, are left out in the cold.</p>
<p>So the answer is yes, as most people understand it, F/m does have a gigantic image problem. And in fact, that problem is perpetuated, quite literally, by most F/m imagery itself. How crazy is that?</p>
<p><strong>What lead you to start Male Submission Art?</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2008/11/19/malesubmissionartcom-or-why-i-am-crowdsourcing-my-own-pornography/">I started Male Submission Art</a> out of anger, bitterness, and sadness. For years, I had been viewing pornography, erotic images, and other iconography of the BDSM persuasion that did not resonate with me, that indeed pained me. You might ask why I continued to view imagery that I found so unfulfilling and you would be quite right to do so. The simple answer, however, is that it is my sexuality: I am a submissive man, and my personal pursuit of happiness involves expressing love and devotion to a dominant partner from a place of sexual submission.</p>
<p>While it may be reasonable to expect someone for whom most erotic imagery does not offer fulfillment to stop viewing it, it is downright cruel to expect that person to simply live unfulfilled. With few options for satisfying sexual expression, erotic art is a literal lifeline for many people, offering sexual fulfillment at least in fantasy for the things they can not, or feel they should not, actually have in reality. That describes me, except for the fact that I found most of the easily available imagery so distasteful for so many reasons that <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2010/10/13/its-not-changing-the-world-thats-hard/">masturbatory sessions with the stuff sometimes ended in tears</a>.</p>
<p>I felt ignored by so much of the imagery out there, but I optimistically believed I couldn&#8217;t be the only one who felt that way. I began to examine why, exactly, I felt so marginalized by most existing imagery and was eventually able to identify an aesthetic that I felt did a better job representing my desires. Male Submission Art was created as the place to curate images I liked, partly for my own sake, but also for the sake of the other men like me who I had to believe felt as I did.</p>
<p><strong>What sort of reaction have you had to Male Submission Art?</strong></p>
<p>The reaction to Male Submission Art has been amazing. Interestingly, it has attracted an incredibly vocal audience of women. <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/playground/malesubmissionartcom/praise/">I&#8217;ve received numerous correspondence</a> from women who have said my work on the site changed their lives for the better. Many of these women tell me personal stories that corroborate my theories about the F/m &#8220;image problem.&#8221; For instance, Jenny wrote:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://maybemaimed.com/playground/malesubmissionartcom/praise/"><p>For me, years of porn and women’s magazines have left me expecting to be submissive, just because I’m female. And whilst yes, I could let someone take control of me, I enjoy taking that control myself because of the pleasure I can make others feel. […] Thank you for showing me who I am. Thank you for showing me it’s okay to be a strong, sexy woman who takes control (and not just as a one-off to turn a guy on).</p></blockquote>
<p>While most of the people who wrote to me personally about the site were women, there were gay men and even straight men who also wrote to me. For example, Michael wrote:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://maybemaimed.com/playground/malesubmissionartcom/praise/"><p>As a hetero male sub, I’ve grown up looking at traditional Femdom images. Yes, I “get off” on it often, but there was always something missing: the tender, loving feelings I have and share with my Mistress. Best of all, I’ve found things [at Male Submission Art] that reflect our relationship (and other things) which I can send to her because I know she will enjoy them.</p></blockquote>
<p>Possibly the most surprising response I&#8217;ve gotten from the site, however, is from submissive women. One woman named &#8220;Spark&#8221; wrote that she wasn&#8217;t like any of the other submissive women she knew:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://maybemaimed.com/playground/malesubmissionartcom/praise/"><p>I couldn’t call myself submissive because I couldn’t see how the way I felt and the way [other submissive women I knew] felt was at all the same. […] Then I came across your website, and started to see all these different images of submission. Something beautiful and valuable, a way to be strong and proud and yet not in control. Not something to be ashamed of, something you could really be proud of with good grounds. I guess I couldn’t admit what I wanted to myself until I saw submission with dignity and pride. And I couldn’t relate to it in images of female bodies.</p></blockquote>
<p>These three are just samples of what must be hundreds. When I still had the energy to post on the site more often, <a href="http://quantcast.com/malesubmissionart.com">Male Submission Art reached an estimated 17,000 visitors a month</a>. To me, that&#8217;s 17,000 people a month who were either actively looking for or didn&#8217;t realize they were looking for imagery of male submission that resonated authentically with them.</p>
<p>In the end, we can&#8217;t be what we can&#8217;t see. And far too much of the mainstream culture doesn&#8217;t allow women to see men as opportunities for their own sexual gratification, and it doesn&#8217;t allow men to see themselves that way, either. And, while trite, the truth is that&#8217;s just not fair.</p>
<p><strong>There have been other commentators questioning some of the prevalent images and assumptions about F/m. Do you think this is changing how people are expressing male submission/Female dominance &#8216;out there&#8217;?</strong></p>
<p>Yes, I do. I&#8217;ve begun to see images featured on Male Submission Art crop up as people&#8217;s avatars and user profile pictures. It is especially encouraging when I see a beautiful image of a submissive man replacing a cliché image of a scowling dominant woman. Even some pro-dommes who previously featured images of themselves in their avatars have started using pictures of men they saw on the site. This is incredibly important, because it begins to inch towards more equitable representation in the media, both social media and, hopefully one day, mainstream media.</p>
<p>It also changes the way that people think of F/m relationships because so many women, like Jenny, are only offered two options for their sexuality by the overwhelming majority of media: submissive girl or scowling dominatrix. But <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2010/02/08/on-dichotomies/">this dichotomy is as old and as false</a> as the virgin-whore dichotomy, and what&#8217;s clear is that perpetuating that false dichotomy does nothing to further the fulfillment of women like Jenny or men like me.</p>
<p>To quote from one of my favorite essays of all time, <a href="http://femalearrogance.wordpress.com/2009/12/27/kinky-sex-for-social-justice/">Kinky Sex for Social Justice</a>:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://femalearrogance.wordpress.com/2009/12/27/kinky-sex-for-social-justice/"><p>While I greatly admire and at times practice female sexual dominance, in terms of sexual politics I think it is far less useful for female empowerment than it would appear to be, sort of in the way that the SAT answer choice that seems totally obvious and easy is usually wrong.</p>
<p>This is because intractably submissive men are actually often the biggest misogynists around: their worship of dominant women is the only way they can indulge deviant sexual desires while keeping their virgin/whore complexes intact.  The dominant woman and the puritan virgin are in fact quite similar.  They are both impenetrable fortresses of untouchable femininity; the woman-as-what-you-can’t-ever-have.  The danger of actuality, of real possession, of the sex act and what follows in all its sticky complexities—which we never resolve because it’s no part of the stories of pursuit and courtship on which men and women alike are raised; stories that end with a fade-to-black on the way to the bedroom—is conveniently never reached, and the man can remain in a safe, comfortable state of unfulfilled torment.</p>
<p>Our culture has no idea what to do with happiness or with the getting of what one wants.</p></blockquote>
<p>When I look at the way most other self-described submissive men behave, <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2007/08/04/what-sexuality-might-taste-like-if-you-were-a-submissive-man-in-2007/">I am often infuriated</a> knowing that I will—and do—pay a price for their disgustingly willful ignorance.</p>
<p><strong>Some people say that F/m reinforces sexism by casting women being in control as something &#8216;absurd&#8217;. What would you say to that?</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;d say that thinking about control as intrinsically linked to gender is absurd. Most of the people who say such things hold contradictory views about sex and gender themselves without realizing it. For example, the idea of dominant women, women in control of a sexual situation, as an absurdity is undermined by the often regurgitated lunacy that women are gatekeepers of men&#8217;s sexuality, that women say either &#8220;yes&#8221; or &#8220;no&#8221; and thereby are either charged with or derided for controlling men&#8217;s sexual urges.</p>
<p><strong>Anything else you&#8217;d like to say?</strong></p>
<p>Curating imagery at Male Submission Art has taught me a lot, mostly because many of the images people suggest offer fascinating insights into their relationship with power, and especially how that relationship interrelates with their understanding of gender. I believe submissive men are one of the most under- and mis-represented groups of people, yet are simultaneously a group who could be extremely influential in advocating for gender equality, for the right to be who we want to be and do what we want to do regardless of one&#8217;s biological sex or gender. And yet many feminists, especially the anti-BDSM radical ones like <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Male_submission&#038;oldid=384132583#Impact_on_feminism">Robin Morgan, are quick to discount our experiences out of hand</a>. Morgan says:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://books.google.com/books?ei=Tz3OS_KUK4-oswP5s6GvDg&#038;ct=result&#038;id=oBSIAAAAIAAJ&#038;dq=against+sadomasochism+The+Politics+Of+Sado-Masochistic+Fantasies&#038;q=grovel+male+master#search_anchor"><p>Men who see themselves as relatedly masochistic, &#8220;femme,&#8221; feminine, etc., obviously are insulting the female (in person and in prinicple). If they grovel to a male master they are mimicking (for <em>fun</em>) an experience all women in patriarchy are in some way or other forced to endure in <em>reality</em>. If they cower before a female &#8220;dominatrix,&#8221; they are superficially reversing, and thereafter trivializing, real women&#8217;s real oppression.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think views like Morgan&#8217;s are extremely unfortunate, because anti-BDSM feminists are supposedly fighting for the rights of women to express themselves as they want, and that includes dominant women. But by disavowing the experiences of submissive men, they simultaneously disavow the experience of <em>people who like submissive men,</em> which, if Male Submission Art is any indication, includes a hell of a lot of women. Such dismissive attitudes about the reality, value, and importance of equitable representations of diverse sexual desire reify the narrow, hegemonic gender roles they claim to want freedom from.</p>
<p>Finally, I want to say that like all aspects of sexuality, submission, submissiveness, and its counterparts are descriptive terms, not proscriptive standards. In breaking the mold of F/m imagery, Male Submission Art clearly shows that other people&#8217;s dogmatic interpretations of what is or is not submissive, what is or is not dominant, and <a href="http://gretachristina.typepad.com/greta_christinas_weblog/2010/09/how-sexism-hurts-men-undateable.html">especially what is or is not manly</a>, have no power over one&#8217;s own sexual desires unless one lets them. And frankly, even and perhaps especially as a submissive man, <a href="http://malesubmissionart.com/post/1215281201/kneeling-naked-on-the-floor-a-muscular-man-whose">I see no reason to let anyone else dictate my sexuality to me</a>.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was <a href="http://www.queerliterarycarnival.com/2010/10/next-week-masks-on-october-12th/">invited to speak last evening at the Sideshow Reading Series</a> by <a href="http://sugarbutch.net/">Sinclair Sexsmith</a>, who co-hosts the Queer Literary Carnival. The event&#8217;s theme was <em>masks</em>. Here&#8217;s what I had to say:</p>
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<blockquote><p>May God bless you with discomfort at easy answers, half truths, and superficial relationships, so that you may live deep within your heart.</p>
<p>May God bless you with anger at injustice, oppression, and exploitation of people, so that you may work for justice, freedom and peace.</p>
<p>May God bless you with tears to shed for those who suffer from pain, rejection, starvation, and war, so that you may reach out your hand to comfort them and to turn their pain in to joy.</p>
<p>And may God bless you with enough foolishness to believe that you can make a difference in this world, so that you can do what others claim cannot be done.</p></blockquote>
<p>So, when Sinclair asked me to read today, I was actually going to read a piece from my personal blog called &#8220;<a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2007/12/11/men-and-masks-in-porn/">Men and Masks in Porn</a>.&#8221; It was about the fact that in most of the porn I sought out, or found, when I was younger <a href="http://malesubmissionart.com/post/91916170/some-anonymous-masked-guy-stands-against-a-wall-as">men are <em>literally</em> masked</a>, not often for the sexual excitement of the thing but to hide their identity. We&#8217;re told that that is how men resonate with porn, that that would let us put ourselves in their places. <a href="http://malesubmissionart.com/post/91994257/a-half-dressed-man-stares-across-a-room-at-a-woman">That didn&#8217;t really do it for me at all</a>.</p>
<p>And then, as I was thinking about what to say when I was speaking up here today, I kept getting drawn back to that Baptist proverb, that religious quote, because religion is one of the most powerful forces that exist in human history. Many people say it is the most powerful force, but <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2007/12/12/love-sex-or-fear-god-that-is-the-question/">it is in fact second only, I think, to sex</a>. Not even religious guilt can stop or suppress any kind of human desire. I mean, there&#8217;s way more than enough news stories about…that.</p>
<p>So now, I understood the kind of sex that I wanted to have when I was really young, when I was about 10. And I started to look at pornography when I was 10, <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2009/11/01/on-youth-sexuality-education-and-your-fears/">I found the Internet at that age</a>, and I knew even then that it would be about 8 years or so before even the things that I wanted would be legal for me to have.</p>
<p>In fact, it&#8217;s still not legal for me to have some of the things that I want. I joined public sexuality communities at 18. I&#8217;m not allowed to consent to certain activities I&#8217;d like to consent to. Several people want to make certain things—<a href="http://kinkontap.com/?p=937">sodomy, for example</a>—illegal. And I know that for some of you in the audience today, it&#8217;s not even legal to <em>be</em> who you <em>are</em>. Many of you are forced to compromise half of yourselves—one half or another—just by putting M or F on any number of government forms.</p>
<p>So <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2010/02/08/on-dichotomies/">I&#8217;m thinking about all that as I&#8217;m growing up</a>, and as a teenager I&#8217;m finding various representations of what I&#8217;m told I should want. And so I&#8217;m watching porn, and—this is me at like, 15 or 16, or 17, or 18 or so—I&#8217;m masturbating to it, and my dick is hard in my hand, <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2007/08/04/what-sexuality-might-taste-like-if-you-were-a-submissive-man-in-2007/">and I&#8217;m <em>crying</em></a> because it&#8217;s not resonating, it&#8217;s not what I actually want, it&#8217;s not me there.</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ve become so good at seeing what I want to see. In fact, you know, when I look at porn sometimes I change the genders around in my head. As a sexually submissive guy myself, I look at a lot of BDSM porn, a lot of women bottoms, and I&#8217;ll change the genders around in my head. When I see a woman tied up, I think, &#8220;It&#8217;s okay, I&#8217;ll just imagine them as a guy, someone like me.&#8221; Or when I see men, I&#8217;m like, &#8220;What are their faces like?&#8221; Because, again, <em>masks</em>. So I&#8217;ve become so good at seeing what I want to see that instead of seeing what there is, it&#8217;s become difficult for me to see the world as it is, and to take off my own lens. I think that&#8217;s probably one of the first masks that I&#8217;ve been almost <em>traind</em> to put on, out of my own desire.</p>
<p>And the more I looked at porn the more I realized I really wasn&#8217;t interested in seeing images of sexuality that aroused me, I was much <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2008/11/19/malesubmissionartcom-or-why-i-am-crowdsourcing-my-own-pornography/">more interested in seeing images of sexuality that reflected mine</a>, so I could connect with them and see myself represented in that image and have a validation that I actually exist, that other people are like me there.</p>
<p>So I started to create spaces. One of the projects that I run is a website called <a href="http://MaleSubmissionArt.com/">MaleSubmissionArt.com</a> and it was really designed around this idea: &#8220;<a href="http://malesubmissionart.com/post/601778674/while-wearing-a-head-harness-and-a-ball-gag-a-man">You cannot be what you cannot see</a>.&#8221; So I started to ask people to send me images of male submissiveness and masculinity in a submissive sexuality context. And the <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/playground/malesubmissionartcom/praise/">responses</a> I got to it were absolutely astonishing. Some of the responses were from submissive women, which I could never have dreamed of getting. <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2008/11/19/malesubmissionartcom-or-why-i-am-crowdsourcing-my-own-pornography/#comment-27802">Here&#8217;s one of them</a>:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://maybemaimed.com/2008/11/19/malesubmissionartcom-or-why-i-am-crowdsourcing-my-own-pornography/#comment-27802"><p>I just wanted to thank you. I am a young woman and even though I’ve known I was submissive for quite a while, I’ve had a hard time reconciling that with my strong personality. Your comments, though, have inspired me to go looking for a dom willing to work as hard for me as I’ll work for them. I’m pretty sure you’ve changed my life for the better and I sincerely appreciate it. Thank you.</p></blockquote>
<p>This <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2007/07/30/how-to-make-my-space-bigger/">desire to create spaces where we&#8217;re represented</a>, I think, is common to many of us and many of us are trying to forge what I believe is a very new morality. One in which behavior towards other people is really geared not towards how we would like to be treated but on how they, themselves, would like us to treat them. I realize that&#8217;s a radical concept to some people but I think it&#8217;s very important and that&#8217;s not <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2010/04/02/stand-against-stigma/">how we&#8217;re told we should behave</a>.</p>
<p>About many of the spaces I&#8217;ve created, many submissive men have told me&#8211;you know the kind, a little creepy, not really very well-suited to public spaces, kind of hard to talk to&#8211;many of them have said, &#8220;Thank you for writing the things that you do. There aren&#8217;t many men who speak about the things you speak about.&#8221; They seem very lonely to me.</p>
<p>In their pain, I found a lot of validation because I understand that and <a href="http://maymay.net/blog/2010/09/10/dear-cassandra/">I&#8217;m, truly, very lonely</a>. When they thank me for what I write I understand the importance of my work. Having created those spaces, I really felt like I needed to distance myself from the very communities I went out to join at 18&#8211;they weren&#8217;t the spaces for me&#8211;in order to <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2009/03/23/kinkforall-and-the-evolution-of-sexuality-communities/">create new spaces</a>.</p>
<p>I run an Internet talk show called Kink On Tap (at <a href="http://KinkOnTap.com/">KinkOnTap.com</a>). One of the responses that I got from there in another email was someone who wrote to me and said:</p>
<blockquote><p>You&#8217;ve brought me more than a bit of peace on [the subject of my sexuality]. It&#8217;s nice to know that I&#8217;m not alone. Even though I was told over and over in my childhood that being anything other than the average, normal, baptist girl was a bad thing, reading your blogs and listening to Kink On Tap disproves all of that and I&#8217;m delighted to say a small amount of my own self-hatred is beginning to wane. And for that alone, I thank you so much.</p></blockquote>
<p>So, people often ask me why I do the stuff that I do. And to that I&#8217;ve started answering with this question, which is: &#8220;What would you do after you&#8217;ve given up? After you&#8217;ve <a href="http://malesubmissionart.com/post/1026977007/a-naked-man-tied-in-full-body-natural-colored-hemp">given up on having a sexually satisfied life</a>? On having what you want?&#8221; My answer to that is anything you need to do to stay alive.</p>
<p>The correspondences that I get keep me alive when I feel like I&#8217;ve despaired. And I feel like <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2009/11/23/sexual-adultism-at-kinkforall-washington-dc/">I&#8217;m making people&#8217;s lives better</a>. That&#8217;s the only currency I think I have—it&#8217;s not money, it&#8217;s not friendship, it&#8217;s not loyalty, it&#8217;s not sex—it&#8217;s doing. Actually doing. Action. So this new morality based <a href="http://maymay.net/blog/2010/03/13/what-if-the-ten-commandments-were-affirmative-instead-of-negative/">not on commandments we&#8217;ve received but on affirmations we define for ourselves</a>, I think, is how I keep myself alive and how I hope others will do the same, changing the world for the better.</p>
<p>People say changing the world is hard, that it&#8217;s a difficult thing to do. I think that&#8217;s not true. I think many of you in the audience by your mere existence here are changing the world. And it&#8217;s not changing the world that&#8217;s hard, it&#8217;s staying alive to do the work that&#8217;s difficult.</p>
<p>So what I want more than anything else in the world is to find other people like myself. People who are bored by complacency, who are exhausted by inaction, and who are stimulated by that discomfort. Because I think no one&#8217;s sexual rights—not one person&#8217;s—are assured unless all people can have the consensual relationships of their own choosing.</p>
<p>So if nothing else, for the love of love, reach out to someone and tell them that they are not alone. Connect with people so that they feel less alone. Those emails literally keep me alive. Email a friend and tell them about this reading series, encourage them to come out here, because too many people still think that they are alone when they are not.</p>
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		<title>What will it take for the silent majority to speak up?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am uniquely privileged: because of my relative self-sufficiency, I am loudly, unabashedly out of the closet. This gives me a certain power; I make no bones about wielding it. Unfortunately, not everyone enjoys the ability to be wholly and publicly authentic about who they are because standing up for what you believe in can [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am uniquely privileged: because of <a href="http://maymay.net/blog/2010/01/08/what-kind-of-world/">my relative self-sufficiency</a>, <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2010/04/02/stand-against-stigma/">I am loudly, unabashedly out of the closet</a>. This gives me <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2010/06/24/kinkforall-versus-stop-porn-culture-guess-whos-filthier/">a certain power</a>; I make no bones about wielding it. Unfortunately, not everyone enjoys the ability to be wholly and publicly authentic about who they are because <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2010/03/24/the-salvation-army-incites-personal-attacks-against-me-a-blog-reply/">standing up for what you believe in can get you viciously attacked</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I continue to receive numerous personal, private, <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2010/01/31/on-talking-to-children-and-adolescents-about-bdsm-and-sex/">correspondence from people of all genders, backgrounds, ages, and concerns</a> who are uncomfortable about speaking non-anonymously. These folks have already made a leap of faith merely by emailing me (emails are <em>not</em> anonymous), yet what they have to say is so vital, is so important, and I believe is <em>so prevalent</em> that not sharing these &#8220;private conversations&#8221; publicly routinely pains me. I frequently ask for permission to publish these exchanges (even though I consider anything that comes to my inbox fair game for public blogging) out of respect for the concerns of others, regardless of my personal inclination towards <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_transparency">radical transparency</a>.</p>
<p>This stockpile of personal correspondence, the things these &#8220;garden-variety,&#8221; &#8220;normal,&#8221; even &#8220;vanilla&#8221; people tell me about themselves and their lives in one-on-one conversation that they would not feel comfortable sharing more publicly is evidence of the reality that <strong>&#8220;the moral majority&#8221; is simply a misnomer. They are, in fact, merely one very <em>vocal minority</em>.</strong> And, what&#8217;s more, <em>so am I</em>—I am a different vocal minority.</p>
<p>Since it will always be easier to destroy, to shame, to hate, than it will be to create, to empower, and to love, my challenge is to prove to the silent majority how necessary their voices and their actions really are. Until some perceived heretic such as myself can stand up to the monster of cultural shaming, to <a href="http://malesubmissionart.com/post/176453906/a-blue-eyed-man-in-a-white-t-shirt-is-shackled-and">challenge the tyranny of &#8220;common sense,&#8221;</a> and to expose the <a href="http://malesubmissionart.com/post/474514518/a-shirtless-man-with-a-bloodied-back-kneels-in">enraging and despicable lies</a> activist <a href="http://deepthroated.wordpress.com/2010/07/22/2122/">academics peddle as fact</a>, the silent majority will remain silenced by the <a href="http://kinkontap.com/?p=825">vocal minorities fighting to maintain the cultural, religious, and economic status-quo</a>.</p>
<p>On that note, here&#8217;s one such (slightly edited) exchange that I think is eye-opening with regards to its under-reported, and perhaps unacknowledged, prevalence. Like many others, this person prefers to remain anonymous because their &#8220;views have the potential to piss just about every camp off.&#8221; (<a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2010/03/19/community-organizing-for-great-justice/">That&#8217;s rarely been on my list of reasons why <em>not</em> to do something</a>, but I respect the sentiment.)</p>
<p>So without further ado, here&#8217;s the closest thing to a guest post I&#8217;ve published on this blog:</p>
<blockquote><p>Maymay,</p>
<p>I can finally sit down and write you an email on some of the thoughts I&#8217;ve had while reading your posts. Let&#8217;s start with the <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2007/08/04/what-sexuality-might-taste-like-if-you-were-a-submissive-man-in-2007/">Submissive Man in 2007</a>:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://maybemaimed.com/2007/08/04/what-sexuality-might-taste-like-if-you-were-a-submissive-man-in-2007/"><p>I wanted to write about why many submissive men are just as responsible for debasing their own sexuality as the many pro- (and so obviously not-so-pro-)dommes who take delight in squashing them down while lifting them of that burdensome weight in their wallets. (“Thank you for stealing my money, Mistress, would you like another dollar?”)</p></blockquote>
<p>There seems to be this strange notion in femdom that women are superior to men. As a fantasy, I can kink on that notion for perhaps a two minute stretch at a time (perhaps longer with <a href="http://malesubmissionart.com/post/64728320/a-collared-sweating-aroused-young-man-has-his">a visual like something by Sardax</a>) before I discard it at as silly (for me). I&#8217;m not a loser. I&#8217;m not a worm. I&#8217;m not a piggy. I&#8217;m not worthless. I&#8217;m not a maid. I&#8217;m not a handyman. And I&#8217;m not a wallet. These notions of male submission don&#8217;t resonate with me at all. In fact, I think my submission to a woman has a special meaning because <em>I&#8217;m awesome</em>; the type of submission I do when I&#8217;m submissive is not necessarily &#8220;better,&#8221; but it is different, and it is under-represented.</p>
<p>There are tons of internet femdoms urging me to prove how worthless I am to please them; why not femdoms urging me to prove how awesome I am to please them?</p>
<p>I certainly don&#8217;t want to step on other people&#8217;s fantasies, yet there comes a problem when certain fantasies can&#8217;t be distinguished from reality, and when certain fantasies marginalize others (like mine). Sexual dominance really isn&#8217;t necessarily the same thing as status superiority; just because I often want women to have the former, it doesn&#8217;t mean I believe them to hold the latter.</p>
<p>Like you, the other thing I have trouble relating to is paying money for &#8220;financial domination&#8221;, &#8220;tribute&#8221;, or &#8220;sessions,&#8221; at least not in typical contexts. As a student of seduction for many years, I want people to do stuff with me because they are enthusiastic about it. I want people to want me. If someone doesn&#8217;t want me enough to do something with me without any exchange of money, then they don&#8217;t want them as much as I would want them to want me.</p>
<p>I originally figured out some of the problems with males attempting to exchange money for female sexuality from the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seduction_community">seduction community</a>, in <a href="http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?action=retrieve&#038;grp=9&#038;mn=106136967097030">posts</a> like <a href="http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?action=retrieve&#038;grp=6&#038;mn=1107337796204648">these</a>.</p>
<p>By the cultural default, paying money implies that I am <em>inadequate</em> in intrinsic desirability, and that I must &#8220;sweeten the deal&#8221; financially to make up for this inadequacy. I do not accept that framing of the situation at all! If I&#8217;m not desirable enough for someone to want to be sexual with me without me having to include extrinsic incentives outside their enjoyment of the activity, then we are really not a good fit.</p>
<p>An important lesson I&#8217;ve learned is that a lot of the status that people give me depends on how much status I act like I have. Similarly, people seem to treat me as more desirable when I act like I&#8217;m desirable, and when I act in a way that shows that I believe that they will find me desirable.</p>
<p>Yet if I offer someone money for a sexual experience, I am acting as if I believe that I&#8217;m less desirable to her than she is to me; my belief in my lower desirability will then serve as evidence to her that she should also believe that I have lower desirability. By the same logic, I understand your ambivalence about pro-dommes asking you to session with them. If I received such a suggestion, I would be offended inside, because it would imply that she saw me as less desirable than I saw her, and that she considered it acceptable to rub that perception in my face and have me be thankful for a chance for an asymmetrical interaction with her. Thanks, but no thanks.</p>
<p>I would argue that pro-dommes (and non-pro) are also being short-changed by these exchange metaphors in their own dating lives. They (and men who approach them as potential lovers) are used to accepting a metaphor which devalues the man&#8217;s desirability. I&#8217;m currently seeing a pro-domme. She asked me out after we got talking&#8230;but I wonder what would have happened if instead I had followed one of the standard submissive scripts and asked to be her slave, pay her tribute, worship her, or session with her. There is a good chance I would have destroyed my desirability for her, and we wouldn&#8217;t now be enjoying experiences that she charges other men hundreds of dollars for in &#8220;sessions.&#8221;</p>
<p>Since I want people to want me, I go to great lengths to make myself attractive to people I&#8217;m seeing. Getting ready can take me several hours, and even more if I&#8217;m going out as a girl. As a student of<br />
seduction, I enjoy using my knowledge of sexuality and psychology to create mutually-enjoyable situations. Sometimes, I view the images and interactions I create as a form of power, and sometimes I view them as a form of service; these views are not mutually-exclusive. With people I go out with, part of my effort to create an attractive image and enjoyable interaction involves avoiding and ruthlessly shutting down interpersonal dynamics that undermine my desirability or value as a person; this could be construed as a service.</p>
<p>Since I believe that a lot of <a href="http://malesubmissionart.com/post/91994257/a-half-dressed-man-stares-across-a-room-at-a-woman">stereotypical male submission dynamics and scripts will undermine my desirability</a> and value in even a dommes&#8217; eyes  (including, but not limited to, forms of financial exchange), I am forced to reject them in order to maintain a mutually pleasing and sustainable interaction. For me, the best way to &#8220;serve&#8221; (to the extent that the notion of service resonates with me) is to reject the stereotypical, self-undermining notions of service that are associated with the devaluing of submissive male sexuality. I serve the relationship, and I serve the other person through my service to the relationship, even if this service involves me rejecting tempting cultural scripts, rejecting certain dynamics or tests from the other person that I judge as harmful to the long-term health of the relationship, not necessarily giving them everything they want when they want it, <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2009/02/27/8-things-submissive-men-want-from-a-dominant-partner/">asserting myself, presenting strong opinions</a>, being challenging, or saying &#8220;no&#8221; or &#8220;not yet.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m really grateful for all the personal correspondence I&#8217;ve gotten and I hope it continues. I also hope that more such correspondence—in whatever form it takes—<a href="http://malesubmissionart.com/post/679404639/two-men-each-wearing-collars-one-naked-save-for">encourages people to open themselves up a bit more than they otherwise would</a>. Although this exchange was about a topic germane to BDSM and, therefore, this blog, I&#8217;ve had similar exchanges with self-described &#8220;normal people&#8221; who held &#8220;unpopular,&#8221; &#8220;under-culture,&#8221; or just plain &#8220;perverted&#8221; views.</p>
<p>And you might be surprised to learn how many of them came from doctrinal socially conservative or religious backgrounds.</p>
<p>You guys are the silent majority. I&#8217;m a bullhorn, a loud voice, maybe a lighthouse doing my best to shine light onto an otherwise dark and rocky shore of a corrosive and repressive hegemony. But I&#8217;m not the meat of the matter, you are. What will it take for more of you to <a href="https://twitter.com/maymaym/status/18723680007">speak up and speak out</a>?</p>
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		<title>On the Importance and Lack Thereof of Sexual Intercourse</title>
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		<dc:creator>maymay</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I look back on the past two years of my life, I&#8217;m taken aback at the incredible amount of change. I&#8217;ve written about much of this change, from my shifting professional aspirations, to my blossoming activism, to my personal struggles. But one thing I almost totally stopped writing about ever since Eileen and I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I look back on the past two years of my life, I&#8217;m taken aback at the incredible amount of change. I&#8217;ve written about much of this change, from <a href="http://maymay.net/blog/2010/01/08/what-kind-of-world/">my shifting professional aspirations</a>, to <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2010/01/11/the-internet-made-me-a-sexual-freedom-activist-in-2009-now-its-your-turn/">my blossoming activism</a>, to <a href="http://maymay.net/blog/2009/04/30/what-kind-of-man/">my personal struggles</a>. But one thing I almost totally stopped writing about <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2009/02/27/8-things-submissive-men-want-from-a-dominant-partner/">ever since Eileen and I broke up</a> was my sex life.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting to note that I was <em>already</em> &#8220;the sex blogger that didn&#8217;t blog about sex,&#8221; at least relatively infrequently and tamely. Nevertheless, I&#8217;m even more widely read now (after stopping to talk about the practice of sex) than I ever was before. More interesting, however, is that I&#8217;m still asked questions about my personal sexual practices, and <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2010/01/31/on-talking-to-children-and-adolescents-about-bdsm-and-sex/">asked questions about sex in general</a>, regardless of how much I do or do not talk about <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/label/fantasy/">what I like to do in the sack</a>.</p>
<p>Recently, I got one such question in an email from someone calling themselves Charybdis:</p>
<blockquote><p>I like pain, bondage and most of the BDSM culture, but one problem I keep bumping into is that I cannot find a partner who accepts that I do not need, or really want, penetrative vaginal sex. I find a far more intense pleasure moment in other areas of sexual play. </p>
<p>I know what I like and want. But I keep bumping into that wall within the culture that I am supposed to really enjoy his dick inside of me. Will I ever find anyone who understands? Is it alright to be me, as I am, and still be the dominant personality I am, yet not want to be fucked in my vagina? </p>
<p>I have read some (ok, a lot) of your posts, and you seem to really GET how to explain things. I just haven&#8217;t read anything where you spoke to this.</p>
<p>—<cite>Charybdis</cite></p></blockquote>
<p>Both the tone and the content of Charybdis&#8217;s email resonated with me. It&#8217;s frustrating at best and downright depressing at worst to <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2009/08/18/there-is-no-bdsm-mecca/">continually feel barred from a full and happy expression of my sexuality</a> thanks to <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2007/08/21/i-want-to-be-a-pretty-boy/">other people&#8217;s failure to acknowledge my desires</a>. When Charybdis says they &#8220;keep bumping into that wall within the culture,&#8221; what I hear is, &#8220;<a href="http://malesubmissionart.com/post/136225950/a-young-man-is-shackled-and-leashed-to-spreader">I&#8217;m frustrated by the systemic suppression of the validity of my sexual desires</a> simply because <a href="http://malesubmissionart.com/post/175406586/a-handcuffed-and-blindfolded-man-lays-on-a-bed-as">they do not conform to cultural norms</a>.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s worth calling out the fact that the &#8220;culture&#8221; being spoken of is, itself, a subculture (<a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2007/08/28/the-kink-culture-of-fear/">the BDSM subculture, specifically</a>), and yet even here, far from the mainstream, there&#8217;s <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2009/10/02/dont-you-fret-sexism-is-alive-and-well-in-bdsm/">cultural pressure to conform to some idealized standard of behavior</a> and desire. Regardless of whether such conformity is required by the mainstream or a subculture, the <a href="http://malesubmissionart.com/post/494491786/a-couple-embraces-in-front-of-st-patricks">root of the problem is the same: unquestioned values coupled with disrespect of diversity</a>. While I see nothing inherently wrong with <a href="http://malesubmissionart.com/post/92201638/a-naked-man-is-tied-to-a-large-wooden-plank-by">communally-defined idealized standards</a>, I see a lot of things wrong with <a href="http://malesubmissionart.com/post/434330030/the-penis-of-a-lean-man-is-leashed-loosely-with">the ways those standards are perpetuated</a>, ways that needlessly harm people like Charybdis and myself.</p>
<p>So, first, Charybdis, know this: Yes, it is alright to be you, as you are, and still be the dominant personality you are, yet not want to be fucked in your vagina. Second, know that <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2007/11/26/while-fucking-i-prefer-to-get-fucked/">you can fuck with your vagina as easily as you can be fucked in it</a>. And finally, know that while you may not have found people who understand this or who don&#8217;t value intercourse highly yet, such people are out there, and <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2007/11/15/the-closet-and-the-importance-of-others/">they are probably looking for you, too</a>.</p>
<p>Intercourse, which is the word I use to distinguish penis-in-vagina sex from <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2010/02/02/published-strap-on-sex-essay-financial-support-not-financial-compensation/">the many other and equally enjoyable kinds of sex I have</a> with partners, is one of the things that&#8217;s changed a lot for me over the past two years. Eileen and I did have intercourse, but extremely infrequently by anyone&#8217;s measure—maybe once every few months or so? Anyway, it was certainly rare enough that <a href="http://bloodylaughter.com/2008/07/29/sex-and-nachos/">it was especially noteworthy when we did have intercourse</a>. By contrast, intercourse is the sex that <a href="http://followsthesun.com/">Emma</a> and I have most often—intercourse is at least part of almost all of our sexual encounters.</p>
<p>Although I haven&#8217;t <a href="http://malesubmissionart.com/post/116275731/a-naked-couple-is-having-sexual-intercourse-in-the">written much about intercourse specifically</a>, which speaks more to how unimportant the fact of the act is than my interest or lack thereof in it, <a href="http://bloodylaughter.com/2007/07/02/cracking-it-up-to-be/">Eileen has</a>, and I&#8217;d encourage you to <a href="http://bloodylaughter.com/label/sex/">read through her archives on the subject of sex</a>:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://bloodylaughter.com/2007/07/02/cracking-it-up-to-be/"><p>ladies and gentlemen, I am a supposedly “sexually liberated” woman who does not enjoy the act of sexual intercourse. […] I’ve been there, in many different ways with a moderate handful of partners. And I’m here to tell you, it just doesn’t do it for me.</p>
<p>[…]</p>
<p>I would rather curl up in bed with my Hitachi Magic Wand than my achingly eager boyfriend. I’d say it’s a very good thing I ended up with a boy with a fetish for pleasure control.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t doubt that it&#8217;s <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2007/02/22/ramblings-of-a-boy-with-a-fetish-for-orgasm-control/">my &#8220;fetish for pleasure control&#8221;</a> that shaped my rather existential values regarding sexual acts; the act of <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2007/03/01/is-there-such-a-thing-as-regular-sex/">intercourse isn&#8217;t hot for me without a certain intentionality</a> and since <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2007/08/10/the-first-blowjob-ive-ever-bottomed-to/">that intention can be achieved regardless of a specific sex act</a>, I have no worldly reason to find having my cock inside a partner&#8217;s cunt particularly important. Sure, it feels wonderful, but so do many other things. <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2007/11/02/the-unexpected-clarity/">I kink much harder on being sexually controlled in novel and psychologically intimate ways</a> than I do on simple intercourse.</p>
<p>Indeed, the only strong motivation I can remember feeling for intercourse is derived from my partner&#8217;s desire for the act itself. Enjoying particular sex acts <em>for the acts themselves</em> very often boils down to sexual compersion, for me. Such is undoubtedly the case with Emma.</p>
<p>When Emma and I have intercourse, we do so because she wants that, specifically. So clear is the distinction between her desire for the act and my desire to pleasure her through the act that intercourse, for us, often revolves around an explicit and intentional challenge in which my sole purpose is to pleasure her with my cock (often to the exclusion of my own orgasm, because then the power differential is even more pronounced). During <a href="http://malesubmissionart.com/post/224723924/a-shirtless-man-kneeling-on-a-bed-holds-a-hanger">these scenes, which rarely involve restraints or any other traditional symbols of the BDSM subculture</a>, I&#8217;m not a man wanting sex but rather a mindful and sophisticated pleasure toy that&#8217;s been &#8220;turned on&#8221; for her use.</p>
<p>While the sex I had with Eileen is stunningly different from the sex I have with Emma, my intentionality has not changed. I was Eileen&#8217;s toy. Then (and, happily, now) <a href="http://followsthesun.com/?p=418">I was Emma&#8217;s</a>. Eileen had her personal motivations. Emma has her own, different set.</p>
<p>When sex is amazing, it is never because of a sublimation of desires on anyone&#8217;s part, but rather an alignment of individual self-interest and fulfillment. For many men, intercourse has specific meaning, value, and importance. For me, it doesn&#8217;t. I&#8217;m no more or less a man than the men who desire intercourse, and neither Eileen, Emma, nor Charybdis is any more or less (presumably) women than other women with different desires than theirs.</p>
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		<title>Orgasm Denial Does Not Submissive Men Make</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the things that has seriously bugged me for a very long time is how lots of people think about submissiveness, particularly but not necessarily as it relates to male sexuality. It bugs me because for all the lip service paid to respecting submission, very little about the way it&#8217;s discussed actually seems to [...]]]></description>
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<p>One of the things that has seriously bugged me for a very long time is how lots of people think about submissiveness, particularly but not necessarily as it relates to male sexuality. It bugs me because for all the lip service paid to respecting submission, very little about the way it&#8217;s discussed actually seems to be respectful of submissive desires.</p>
<p>I, unlike many submissive young men in their teens, surrounded myself with the culture and ritual of dominant/submissive relationships through the <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2007/11/15/the-closet-and-the-importance-of-others/">very fortunate circumstances in which I found myself</a>. Yet, despite my incredible access to such resources, it was indescribably difficult (<a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2007/08/04/what-sexuality-might-taste-like-if-you-were-a-submissive-man-in-2007/">not to mention painful</a>) for me to get to a point where I felt like I can enjoy my sexual submission as a valid part of my masculinity.</p>
<p>Why was it so hard for to me feel validated in my submission? Why does it continue to be a struggle for many people, as the <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/playground/malesubmissionartcom/praise/">overwhelming response to my subversive writings at MaleSubmissionArt.com</a> show? This question, at once both simple and unspeakably intricate, is what I want to address in this post.</p>
<p>Imagine for a moment you&#8217;re <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2008/06/24/young-people-into-bdsm-are-not-exceptional/">a young guy (or a guy of any age, really) trying to understand your sexual desires</a>. You know you want a relationship with (in the name of simplicity) a woman who will &#8220;take charge in the bedroom,&#8221; but you don&#8217;t really know what that looks like. You come across porn and sex blogs and, like a second (or third, or fourth) erotic awakening, all sorts of fantasy imagery involving either <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2010/02/02/published-strap-on-sex-essay-financial-support-not-financial-compensation/">getting butt-fucked</a> or <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2007/11/02/the-unexpected-clarity/">not being allowed to orgasm</a>, or both of those, starts bubbling in your brain, since—let&#8217;s face it—that&#8217;s <a href="http://malesubmissionart.com/post/91850568/an-unimportant-uninteresting-man-is-hidden-behind">most of the erotic material out there for such guys</a>. You finally get a girlfriend and, remarkably, she&#8217;s <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savage_Love#GGG">good, giving and game</a>, so you get butt-fucked and she doesn&#8217;t let you come. &#8220;Wonderful,&#8221; you&#8217;re likely to think, &#8220;now I&#8217;ve been submissive.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re lucky, maybe it was really wonderful. More power to you. But what if it&#8217;s not? Moreover, and I suspect this is most common, what if that wonderfulness is just the tip of the iceberg? What if the new experience was amazing and novel but you want more? What is that &#8220;more&#8221; that you want? More butt-fucking? More bondage? More sexual service? More orgasm denial? What are you yearning for, really?</p>
<p>This, sadly, is where many of us get stuck. I&#8217;ve read countless words from hundreds if not thousands of men, all of whom seem to be trying to answer these very questions. I&#8217;m one of these men, trying to figure out what the fuck all this desiring is, trying to make it &#8220;more&#8221; and &#8220;better&#8221; as though I&#8217;m following some kind of primal programming. I want to be more passionate. More intimate. More connected. More devoted. More focused. More meaningful. More <em>submissive</em>.</p>
<p>Obviously, this is a very big topic, and I often feel overwhelmed just thinking about how submission relates to my life, influences my relationships, or shapes my desires. As I often struggle with articulating these thoughts, I figured that even if I don&#8217;t get it quite right, it&#8217;s worth sharing some of where I&#8217;ve gotten to because I no longer enjoy sex <em>despite</em> being a submissive man. I finally enjoy sex <em>because</em> I am—and want to be—a sexually submissive man.</p>
<p>Hopefully, I&#8217;ll clarify the imprecise language we currently have available to explore gendered power and submissive masculinity in particular, and I&#8217;ll address how such feeble language may cause egregious ambiguity in communication as well as misconceptions about fundamental desires that hamper our understanding of consensual sexual submission.</p>
<h2>Hot or not? Submission isn&#8217;t arousal.</h2>
<p>This submission stuff is <em>hard</em>, and I&#8217;m not the only <a href="http://denyingthumper.com/2010/01/04/the-nose-on-my-face/">one who&#8217;s struggled</a>, or is struggling, with it. One reason it&#8217;s so goddamn hard is because the way I so often see it conceptualized feels polluted by imprecision, absolutism, and sexism.</p>
<p>Most of the time, I ignore a great deal of the polluted chatter because it comes from people I don&#8217;t hold in high regard to begin with. Recently, however, some of the men who blog that I respect a lot have hit some of the same notes while singing submissive masculinity&#8217;s tunes as the people I ignore, and <em>that</em> is something I cannot ignore.</p>
<p>More specifically, <a href="http://denyingthumper.com/">Thumper</a>, whose blog I read almost religiously, inspired a debate between <a href="http://outsidevanilla.blogspot.com/">MyKey</a> and myself. In a comment on <a href="http://denyingthumper.com/2010/02/26/the-10100-plan/">one of Thumper&#8217;s posts, MyKey said</a>:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://denyingthumper.com/2010/02/26/the-10100-plan/"><p>The denial after [lots of orgasms] is much harder and much sweeter for it, and the submission deeper and more fun. Of course during those periods [after orgasm] its hard to be as submissive[…].</p></blockquote>
<p>Although I&#8217;ve read this opinion expressed in about a bazillion different ways, it&#8217;s <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2007/03/23/is-submissive-intent-influenced-by-orgasms/">a sentiment I&#8217;ve never felt completely comfortable with</a>. Indeed, the more I dissect my own submissiveness and explore what submission means to me, the more upset I get by its prevalence. I get even more upset when bloggers perpetuate this, because they are currently the most influential source of education about submissive masculinity.</p>
<p>But before I get too far into what I find so upsetting about the way this is framed, let&#8217;s make one thing clear: what I&#8217;m about to say has nothing to do with espousing a submissive ideology, a One True Way® for being a &#8220;real submissive.&#8221; It&#8217;s irrational to, for instance, call a self-identified switch &#8220;a submissive&#8221; when that person is feeling submissive by sole virtue of their feelings; they are no more or less &#8220;a submissive&#8221; than they say they are, despite how desirous of submissive feelings they are at any given time. Insofar as identity politics are involved, they stop at the point of <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2008/01/07/because-submissive-is-an-orientation/">acknowledging that your identity is a part in your personal experience of the world</a>.</p>
<p>This post, however, is not about your experience of the world. It&#8217;s about finding a way to convey your experience in a manner that is reconcilable with the different experiences of others. This is important because, lacking this ability, all conversation about submission starts with &#8220;for me,&#8221; repeats the caveat, and then ends with &#8220;Your Mileage May Vary.&#8221; To date, every way I&#8217;ve heard anyone talk about submission breaks down when someone else introduces their own, differing, experience, and I&#8217;m afraid those conversations are no longer useful for me.</p>
<p>Anyway, the short debate between MyKey and I ultimately lead to <a href="http://denyingthumper.com/2010/03/01/a-sub-or-not-a-sub/">a post in which Thumper put forth the following equation</a>:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://denyingthumper.com/2010/03/01/a-sub-or-not-a-sub/"><p>Denial + arousal = submission.</p></blockquote>
<p>In the comments—worth reading despite veering into predictably unhelpful tangents at points—Thumper later amended this to read <q cite="http://denyingthumper.com/2010/03/01/a-sub-or-not-a-sub/">Denial + arousal = <em>submissive energy.</em></q> That&#8217;s better, thanks in part to the focus on &#8220;energy&#8221; (I think more precisely termed <em>desire</em>) over the intrinsic nature of the outcome. Nevertheless, I want to challenge both statements because I think the premise underlying them is simply not true.</p>
<p>Both statements feed into a dangerous, wide-spread stereotype: the cock-centric notion that if you control a man&#8217;s penis, you control the man. Is that true? Of course it&#8217;s not. These activities could certainly be an <em>expression</em> of dominance or submission and they might trigger dominant or submissive <em>feelings</em> in oneself or one&#8217;s partner(s), but Thumper, MyKey and I already seem to agree that the acts are not, themselves, the root cause of submission or dominance.</p>
<p>To wit, and to Thumper&#8217;s credit, one of his next sentences is the following:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://denyingthumper.com/2010/03/01/a-sub-or-not-a-sub/"><p>That&#8217;s not saying I&#8217;m in no way submissive when my sexual appetite has been totally sated. I think I would be accepting of domination even then. [And later, in the comments:] I wasn&#8217;t trying to suggest it&#8217;s just that simple […] but they are strongly related.</p></blockquote>
<p>Indeed, I can think of no realm less suited to the beautiful simplicity of mathematics than human desire, so it&#8217;s obvious that Thumper&#8217;s equation is an oversimplification. Since we can all see that things are not &#8220;just that simple,&#8221; I presume that what Thumper, MyKey, and other submissive men perpetuating this simplistic formulation are trying to get at is that they <em>feel submissive more acutely</em> when the fact of their orgasm denial is at the fore of their thoughts. Thumper says he feels his &#8220;sub mojo&#8221; lessen after he has come. MyKey calls this sensation &#8220;sub drop&#8221; and, since I disagree with the premise of their statements, questions whether I&#8217;m &#8220;wired differently&#8221;.</p>
<p>At least in this regard, however, I am <em>not</em> wired differently. I do understand the sudden, often startling change in desires post-orgasm. During relationships with keyholders, the degree with which my interest in, say, getting my penis locked away waned after having an orgasm was (and still is) totally remarkable to me. Nevertheless, similar to the experiences of others, when my keyholder wanted me locked, I got locked. Why? <em>Because that&#8217;s hot!</em> It wasn&#8217;t quite as hot <em>right then</em>, but it was super-hot shortly thereafter, when I was once again unable to masturbate freely.</p>
<p>This simple after-the-fact observation points to a crucial distinction I fear is missing from the conversation about submission: just because an activity is less pleasant at some moments than it is during others doesn&#8217;t mean I won&#8217;t do or enjoy those activities. Moreover, the <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2007/07/16/dont-be-nice/">drive to perform those activities independent of one&#8217;s immediate motivations</a> is a distinct, separate pleasure, from the pleasure one gets from desiring the activity directly.</p>
<p>I think <a href="http://vanillaedge.wordpress.com/">Tom Allen</a> illustrated this in the sexiest way ever in his <a href="http://vanillaedge.wordpress.com/2010/01/17/ahead-of-time/">erotic story, <cite>Ahead of Time</cite></a>. Portions of this story are so apropos to this discussion that I just have to quote it:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://vanillaedge.wordpress.com/2010/01/17/ahead-of-time/"><p>&#8220;And I want you to come really hard for me. I want you to remember this for a long time.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Oooh,&#8221; I moaned aloud.</p>
<p>&#8220;That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m going to make you eat my pussy right after you come.&#8221;</p>
<p>I gasped. It was like an electric shock to my groin. I&#8217;ve long had this fantasy, but could never bring myself to do it. The idea of being forced to clean her, to lick my still-hot come from her, to hear her demanding that I make her clean, to make her come with my tongue… I&#8217;ve only mentioned to her a handful of times over the years, but I&#8217;ve never been able to ask for this, let alone to try it. <strong>She was right, there&#8217;s something about the first ten or fifteen minutes after coming that puts all that desire right out of my head. </strong>I was excited, but at the same time a bit fearful. I knew that I wouldn&#8217;t want to do it afterward…and so did she.</p>
<p>She sensed my hesitation. &#8220;I <em>know</em> the idea turns you on,&#8221; she said.</p>
<p>Thinking fast, I said  &#8220;But, I, um, thought that you were satisfied. You told me that you had come enough for tonight.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Oh, you&#8217;re not going to do it for my pleasure,&#8221; she said, &#8220;at least, not for my <em>sexual</em> pleasure. You&#8217;re going to do it because in a few days, you&#8217;re going to think about it, and you&#8217;re going to remember this evening as the hottest thing we&#8217;ve ever done.&#8221;</p>
<p>[…]</p>
<p>I was still partially dazed as she inched her knees alongside my body. <strong>When she finally rested her legs over my arms and braced her other hand against the headboard, though, things…changed somehow.</strong> Her pussy, which just minutes ago was a beautiful, warm cave, suddenly now seemed like a hairy tube of flesh that was filled with something that I didn&#8217;t want. Ugh, how could I ever have asked for this? I pursed my lips, but it was too late—I felt the drips onto my cheeks and chin. Seconds later, her slick lips were pressed tightly against my mouth, and I could hear her encouraging me to clean her, to keep sucking and licking until everything was gone.</p></blockquote>
<p>(Emphasis mine.)</p>
<p>What Tom&#8217;s story and our many similar experiences show us is that not even the men who purport to quantify submission based on sexual arousal or orgasm denial <em>actually</em> do that. Although our awareness of submissive feelings may be intensified by specific, often fetishistic triggers (e.g., being horny and prevented from coming), those two concepts are not causally related.</p>
<p>For men like Thumper and I, who clearly dig orgasm denial pretty hard, it makes sense that this desire is a core aspect of how we want to fuck. But we do ourselves and our readers a terrible disservice by perpetuating the idea that our fetish is the cause of our submissive desire rather than a <em>manifestation</em> of it. Submission does not come about through someone else&#8217;s control—that is mere restriction in the best case, and abuse in the worst case—it comes about through <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2008/10/25/equating-passivity-with-sexual-submissiveness-is-a-stupid-mistake/">our <em>active desire</em> to submit</a>. Consensual submission is not about how someone else controls me, it&#8217;s about the opportunities I create for myself to be vulnerable to that person.</p>
<p>When I hear people discussing submission as though it is the result of the thing they want instead of discussing submission itself as the thing they want, it&#8217;s like listening to people talk while putting the emphasis on the wrong syllable. Such an awkward conceptualization of submission is not merely incorrect, it&#8217;s very dangerous because it restricts any submissive desire into a necessarily coercive paradigm.</p>
<p>In this instance, with teasing and denial as the addends, it constructs mens&#8217; submission as totally dependent on the myth of male lust (the idea that men are controlled by their penises <em>because</em> they are men). It states that submissive energy is itself induced by a woman (or, more generally, &#8220;keyholder&#8221;) by accessing that man&#8217;s sexual potency in a strictly prescribed, time-release fashion, like a pill.</p>
<p>This is the same <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2007/08/10/the-first-blowjob-ive-ever-bottomed-to/">misconception that says blowjobs are inherently submissive</a>, or <a href="http://malesubmissionart.com/post/136225950/a-young-man-is-shackled-and-leashed-to-spreader">that pain is inherently bad</a>, or even <a href="http://clarissethorn.wordpress.com/2010/01/25/where-are-all-the-male-dominant-bloggers/#comment-1516">that <em>blogging about sex</em> is inherently submissive</a> (srsly)! Sadly, these ideas are the prevailing view of what &#8220;submission&#8221; is, and I think they totally miss the point about the validity of submission itself as a core motivation.</p>
<p>Framing submission as a second-class thing, a byproduct of some other, first-class particle, is <em>incorrect</em>. Submission is it&#8217;s own distinct facet of sexual desire.</p>
<h2>Reductionist Submission Is Dangerous To Your Sex Life</h2>
<p>There&#8217;s absolutely nothing wrong about <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2009/07/17/i-too-kink-on-bdsm-stereotypes/">getting off on stereotypes</a>. While the reasons for why <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2007/02/22/ramblings-of-a-boy-with-a-fetish-for-orgasm-control/" >many submissive men, including myself, fetishize orgasm denial</a> are debatable, that obvious fact does not make orgasm denial a component of submission. Akin to the way <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2007/08/12/pegging-gets-mainstream-attention-and-kinky-porn-gets-rightfully-slapped-upside-its-head/">desiring anal sex does not make someone gay</a>, abstaining from orgasm does not make someone a submissive. Abstaining longer doesn&#8217;t make them &#8220;more submissive.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2007/03/20/anticipation-in-teasing/">Sexual &#8220;teasing&#8221; is really pleasurable</a> and fun for many people, regardless of their interest in submission. For a huge population, that kind of sex is all about improving their orgasms, whether &#8220;vanilla&#8221; or not; I&#8217;ve read of self-identified dominant men who enjoy the practice, too. For other people, like certain religious sects, some portions of asexual populations, and anorgasmic women, living (or trying to live) an orgasm-less existence isn&#8217;t even kinky. On the flip side, there are certainly some submissive men who simply aren&#8217;t into orgasm denial at all.</p>
<p>In other words, even though sex acts obviously influence one&#8217;s mental or physical state at any given moment, conceptually coupling a sexual activity to what an activity means is going to cut you off from the pleasure of diverse sexual experience. Teasing and denial (the &#8220;denial+arousal&#8221; part of Thumper&#8217;s equation) are not ingredients for submission, they&#8217;re just toys I play with because I, like many others, enjoy expressing submission with them some of the time. Sometimes we enjoy it more than other times, but <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2008/01/08/fantasy-worlds/">sometimes we express that same submission in completely unrelated ways</a>.</p>
<p>Regardless of your personal experience, I&#8217;d urge you to <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2007/11/26/while-fucking-i-prefer-to-get-fucked/">avoid linking any sex act to any intention</a>, even &#8220;for you,&#8221; even if it&#8217;s your fetish. The stereotypical view of orgasm denial as requisite for or even directly &#8220;enhancing&#8221; submission, <em>even for those of us who fetishize it</em>, simply doesn&#8217;t account for our own diverse expressions of submission. To assert that it does is fundamentally miscommunicative. It&#8217;d be like saying getting flogged is submission and that the harder you get flogged the more submissive you are, and although people often make <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2007/08/28/the-kink-culture-of-fear/">the &#8220;harder=submissivier&#8221; false assertion</a> as well, that doesn&#8217;t make it sensible, that makes it dangerous!</p>
<p>That definition of submission, coercive at best and abusive at worst, invalidates submission itself as a potential motivation for healthy sex by undermining <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2009/02/27/8-things-submissive-men-want-from-a-dominant-partner/">a submissive person&#8217;s power to choose exactly what they do or do not want</a>&mdash;a power that&#8217;s required to make healthy sexual choices for one&#8217;s self, even &#8220;as a submissive.&#8221; It tricks us into believing all the <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2010/02/08/on-dichotomies/">false dichotomies embedded in hegemonic culture</a> that tell us BDSM is obscene, and that to be submissive is to <em>necessarily</em> be unassertive, passive, self-effacing, receptive, or acquiescent. These are not ambiguous, wishy-washy obstacles to people&#8217;s health. For many people, particularly men who are deeply immersed in heteronormative culture, these are real factors that contribute to sexual anxiety and <a href="http://maybemaimed.com/2007/08/21/i-want-to-be-a-pretty-boy/">a horrible depreciation of self-image</a>.</p>
<p>Defining the degree of one&#8217;s sexual submission as the summation of a period of orgasm denial and current sexual arousal is not only reductionist, I believe it&#8217;s actively damaging. The equation perpetuates the myth of male lust and disavows the validity of submission as a sexual self-expression that can be actively chosen, rather than induced coercively.</p>
<p>In <a href="http://denyingthumper.com/2010/03/01/a-sub-or-not-a-sub/">the post that spawned all this theorizing</a>, Thumper wrote:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://denyingthumper.com/2010/03/01/a-sub-or-not-a-sub/"><p>I had cruised all through my adolescence with no inkling I was what I was (though I can see some signs that were there all along).</p></blockquote>
<p>Like Thumper, I was certainly submissive before I had a dominant partner in my life. So while this rant may sound like meaningless semantics to some, it&#8217;s crucial that we amplify these distinctions and move the prevailing understanding of submissive masculinity away from the limiting, misrepresentative, and downright sexist bullshit so often spewed by exploitative pro-dommes and the likes of Elise Sutton (<del datetime="2010-03-09T04:05:00+00:00">no link because I hate what she says; Google it instead</del> <ins datetime="2010-03-09T04:05:00+00:00">actually, <a href="http://gloriabrame.typepad.com/inside_the_mind_of_gloria/2007/10/who-is-elise-su.html">Gloria Brame&#8217;s essay on Elise Sutton</a> is totally worth reading</ins>). That&#8217;s precisely the kind of bullshit that kept &#8220;what we are&#8221; hidden from men like Thumper and I for so long.</p>
<p>As an adamantly submissive man myself, I&#8217;m sure my personal experience is going to be different from, say, a switch&#8217;s orgasm denial experience. And that&#8217;s the point: submission is <em>not</em> about creating a ruleset of Things To Do To Be Submissive for anyone, yourself least of all. Very simply, it&#8217;s about sexual self-expression in order to be happy and healthy.</p>
<p>So please, all of us who blog about such things, stop insisting that keeping a man from his orgasms somehow turns him more submissive. You&#8217;re just fooling yourselves, your readers, and arguably worst of all, your lovers.</p>
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		<title>On Dichotomies that (No Longer) Jail Me – KinkForAll Providence</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This past Saturday, <a href="http://wiki.KinkForAll.org/KinkForAllProvidence">KinkForAll Providence</a> was hosted at <a href="http://Brown.edu/">Brown University</a> and sponsored by the <a href="http://students.brown.edu/sheec/">Sexual Health Education and Empowerment Council</a> (SHEEC), chaired by  undergraduate student <a href="http://molusgoabobinable.blogspot.com/">Aida Manduley</a>. I had an awesome time. The unconference sparked fantastically interesting and very important conversations, including discussions about the approach different cultures have to sex and sexuality (notably traditional Mexican and Puerto Rican culture), how people with otherwise &#8220;alternative&#8221; views can fit into and become personally empowered within a larger mainstream that they are often swimming against, and many more things.</p>
<p>Best of all, these conversations didn&#8217;t just stay within the four walls of our venue among the participants who attended physically, but it also reached out across the Internet thanks to the <a href="http://wiki.kinkforall.org/KinkForAllProvidenceLive">KinkForAll Providence live video stream</a>, <a href="http://twitter.com/search?q=%23KFAPVD">Twitter conversations</a>, and <a href="http://saraeileen.com/blog/2010/02/live-blog-kinkforall-providence-kfapvd/">KFAPVD liveblogs</a>. I think the event&#8217;s use of the Internet was truly remarkable this time, because we were able to literally invite anyone in the world to literally watch and see <em>and participate</em> in the discussions that we were having, even if they were unable to be physically present, and even if not everyone agreed with what was being said all the time. Most importantly, as I said in my presentation, since we were able to inspire conversation, everyone stayed within the realm of constructive discourse, and that means we were able to <em>create knowledge</em>, even while individuals may have disagreed on some points.</p>
<p>Below is a video of my presentation. As usual, my presentation is &#8220;open source&#8221; and Creative Commons licensed. Feel free to download it, use it yourself, or share it with anyone you think might find it valuable. If you do, I would greatly appreciate a link back to this page.</p>
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<p><small><a href="http://vimeo.com/9304697">On Dichotomies that (No Longer) Jail Me &#8211; KinkForAll Providence</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/maymay">maymay</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</small></p>
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<li><a href="http://maybemaimed.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/KFAPVD%20-%20Dichotomies.txt">On Dichotomies that (No Longer) Jail Me keynote presentation as a text transcript.</a></li>
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<p>I am deeply grateful to <a href="http://followsthesun.com/">Emma</a> for helping me with this presentation and also for taking a leading role in unorganizing KinkForAll Providence (so I didn&#8217;t actually do so much this time—and I think that&#8217;s great!). Similarly, I&#8217;m also grateful to Aida Manduley for getting this event sponsored by SHEEC and for being the primary unorganizer for venue-related issues. There were some, but she handled them beautifully and deserves more praise for more reasons than many of you know. Their <strong>persistence, professionalism, thoroughness, and ardent support of sexual freedom, freedom of speech, and students&#8217; rights were what made this event possible, even in the face of some very harsh and alarmist criticism.</strong></p>
<p>With that thanks in mind, here&#8217;s the entirety of the presentation I gave at KinkForAll Providence as a text transcript:</p>
<blockquote><p>First of all, let me just say that this is amazing. Look at all of us here at the fifth KinkForAll unconference in the first year of KinkForAll unconferences! KinkForAll Providence is now the 5th KinkForAll event being held in the 1-year history of the event&#8217;s conception. That&#8217;s one KinkForAll, in 4 different cities so far, about every 2 months or so for a whole year! Wow!</p>
<p>This event is thanks in large part to the amazing work of two women: Emma Gross, and Aida Manduley, who&#8217;s Chair of the Sexual Health Education and Empowerment Council here at Brown University. They&#8217;re responsible for getting us this space and so much more. Let&#8217;s give them a <em>huge</em> hand! (APPLAUSE) I like that name: Sexual Health Education and Empowerment Council. Health, education, and <em>empowerment</em>.</p>
<p>I like that name because I think we are actually taught, from a very young age, to see the world in dichotomies, a set of things that are exclusive from an opposing set of things. Dichotomies are necessarily polarizing and, if you&#8217;re not careful, they can be paralyzing. Indeed, dichotomies can be DISempowering.</p>
<p>Self-empowerment relies upon our ability to recognize existing dichotomies so that we can utilize them and, if necessary, so that we can break out of them. As Stephen R. Covey, author of the best-selling &#8220;7 Habits of Highly Effective People,&#8221; reminds us:</p>
<blockquote><p>Our ultimate freedom is the right and power to decide how anybody or anything outside ourselves will affect us.</p></blockquote>
<p>Dichotomies are genuinely useful, even necessary. We use them all the time to make sense of the world around us. In fact, dichotomies themselves conveniently come in two mutually exclusive varieties! These are: true dichotomies, and false dichotomies.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, many of the dichotomies that contemporary culture teaches us are one kind are actually the other! Specifically, many dichotomies that you might&#8217;ve thought were true are actually false! <a href="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/false_dichotomy">According to Wiktionary, the Wikipedia-like dictionary, a false dichotomy</a>, just so that we&#8217;re all on the same page, is:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/false_dichotomy"><p>A situation in which two alternative points of views are presented as the only options, whereas others are available.</p></blockquote>
<p>How many of the dichotomies that hegemonic culture says are &#8220;true&#8221; do you think are actually false? I think the answer might surprise you, and that&#8217;s what I&#8217;m hoping to do in this presentation: I want to help you recognize these dichotomies. In fact, that&#8217;s what the entire founding concept behind KinkForAll is about!</p>
<p>KinkForAll&#8217;s tag line is:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://kinkforall.org/"><p>A serendipitous, ad-hoc unconference about the <strong>intersect</strong>ion of sexuality <strong>with</strong> the rest of <strong>life</strong>.</p></blockquote>
<p>This idea, that sexuality can intersect with all the other things in our lives, seems to be something that a lot of people are really uncomfortable with. Their discomfort highlights several dichotomies, one of which is this one:</p>
<ul>
<li>Obscene vs Decent</li>
</ul>
<p>As it happens, this is one of the many false dichotomies that are societally constructed. How do we know that? Easy! Not everyone is uncomfortable with sexuality intersecting certain aspects of their lives, and some people are only uncomfortable with it intersecting with some parts of their lives, but not with others. This variability is the signature of all false dichotomies. Remember that!</p>
<p>Just to drive the point home, let me tell you a short story. Once upon a time (okay, actually in 1966), in a land far, far away (okay, actually in Kristiansand, Norway), lived a man by the name of Jens Bjørnboe. Jens was a painter and a school teacher, but more than anything else, he was a writer. Jens loved to write, and had already published a book of deeply religious poetry, <cite>Poems</cite> (Dikt, 1951), and a book that dealt with shortcomings of the school system, <cite>Jonas</cite> (1955).</p>
<p>Then, Jens wrote a fictional novel about an 18 year old girl named &#8220;Lillian&#8221; who had to masturbate to have orgasms, called <cite>Without a Stitch</cite>. <a href="http://www.complete-review.com/reviews/bjornebj/without.htm">According to one review</a>:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.complete-review.com/reviews/bjornebj/without.htm"><p><cite>Without a Stitch</cite> begins with a bit of girl-on-girl frolicking with Lillian and Brita [Lillian's classmate], as well as Lillian&#8217;s attempts at having fun with the inexperienced Henry. She can&#8217;t get the desired satisfaction when Henry fumbles around, and in reaction becomes a real cock-tease &#8212; and eventually she realises she needs some professional help. Thank god Brita refers her to Dr. Peterson.</p></blockquote>
<p>Now, Dr. Peterson is, &#8220;a specialist in the orgasm&#8221; and <q cite="http://www.complete-review.com/reviews/bjornebj/without.htm">Lillian entrusts herself into his care, with all the desired results.</q> Nice. :) The review continues,</p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.complete-review.com/reviews/bjornebj/without.htm"><p>Lillian&#8217;s problem seems to be that she worries about what her mother and grandmother might think, causing these inhibitions that hold her back. But Dr. Peterson helps her overcome these, and instructs her in his own moral code &#8212; which amounts to that all sex is good (and more is apparently better &#8230;), as long as no one is hurt or taken advantage of. It takes a lot of daily sessions &#8212; during which she&#8217;s not allowed to be with any other man &#8212; to get the message across, but finally she&#8217;s cured.</p></blockquote>
<p>All right, so: a woman of legal adulthood who was so concerned about what others might think of her that she can&#8217;t have orgasms overcomes that fear under the care of a physician who tells her that all sex is good as long as no one is hurt or taken advantage of. Okay, so there&#8217;s some lesbian scenes, but also some <em>really</em> strict monogamy. Doesn&#8217;t sound so out-there radical to me, really.</p>
<p>Unfortunately for Jens, it did sound radical to the government of Norway, and Bjørnboe suffered an obscenity conviction for publishing the book as pornography. Interestingly, his fictional porn would arguably pale in comparison to the non-fiction writing I&#8217;ve published on my own blog—and that I&#8217;ve read from countless other bloggers! Obviously then, we are obscene by some standards but not by others. Indeed, obscenity standards vary with time, place, and a host of other things.</p>
<p>More interestingly, perhaps, is the fact that Jens Bjørnboe went on to publish his most well-known work, <cite>The History of Bestiality</cite>, and as far as I can tell the Norwegian government didn&#8217;t care to prosecute him for publishing pornography in that case. Huh.</p>
<p>Jens was a pretty uncompromising man. He once said,</p>
<blockquote><p>People speak of &#8216;sexual morality,&#8217; but that is a misleading expression. There is no special morality for sex. No matter what you do with yourself, whether you go to bed with girls or with boys, and no matter what it occurs to you to do with them or with yourself, no moral rule applies to that sphere of activity other than the principles that govern every aspect of life: honesty, courage, common humanity, consideration.</p></blockquote>
<p>What Jens understood that I think is so valuable is that people who dichotomize consensual sexual activity into obscene and decent acts <em>also</em> tend to approach morality as a dichotomy; they couple obscene with immoral and decent with moral. Indeed, Jens sees that the failure to recognize one false dichotomy actually blurs one&#8217;s view of which other dichotomies are true and which are not. On the other hand, when you begin to see the gradations between things you once simplistically believed were absolutes, you empower yourself to break out of all false dichotomies.</p>
<p>Now, before I go any further, it&#8217;s important to mention that false dichotomies are not inherently bad things; they can be useful, as I mentioned, and they can be a lot of fun. Case in point, I think dichotomies of power are really fucking sexy! Specifically, I have always loved (and still love) playing—but not being—powerless. That is, I enjoy being sexually submissive.</p>
<p>Trouble is, I&#8217;m a man. Yes, I know what you&#8217;re thinking: DUH! Thing is, the fact that I&#8217;m a man wasn&#8217;t always clear to me. In fact, thanks to this really strong tendency that false dichotomies, when we incorrectly believe they are true, have of reinforcing one another, for the longest time I thought I was actually a woman! Yeah! Let me tell you why.</p>
<p>In mainstream Western society, and indeed in most modern cultures, this dichotomy of power&#8211;dominance on one hand and submission on the other&#8211;reinforces this other, totally unrelated anywhere but in some people&#8217;s minds, false dichotomy: the one of gender, with men on one side, and women on the other. And then, as if that weren&#8217;t enough, both of those false dichotomies are also strung together like this, so that dominance and manliness is also coupled with activity, while submission and femininity is also coupled with passivity. The trouble with that, for me, was that I like being active <em>and</em> I like being passive in bed!</p>
<p>And then, as if that weren&#8217;t enough, I turned 13, and I put a toothbrush in my butt&#8211;and I liked it! So now I discovered this other, additional incorrect coupling: penetration is coupled with being active, which, as we&#8217;ve already seen is coupled with manliness, which ostensibly makes it dominant. On the other side, being penetrated is coupled with being passive or &#8220;receptive,&#8221; which, remember, is coupled with womanliness, which makes it ostensibly submissive. So now my 13 year old self is totally fucking confused and has no idea what the fuck I am&#8211;man, woman, top, bottom, active partner, passive partner&#8211;except that I knew I really liked getting tied up and I really like my toothbrush in my butt.</p>
<p>But wait, there&#8217;s more! One year later, my younger brother made friends with this really cute guy in his class and he started coming over to our place and I got a really big crush on him. And that&#8217;s when I learned that contemporary culture said, if I was, in fact, a boy, that I was also gay! Yeah, even though I also also masturbated to thoughts of girls! Because apparently, to fit in with contemporary culture, you can&#8217;t be bisexual if you&#8217;re a man. You&#8217;ve gotta be either straight or gay. And even though I was &#8220;only&#8221; 14, I knew that if you like your toothbrush in your butt, <em>you&#8217;re gay</em>!</p>
<p>So, like, oh my god! Could I be a gay boy who liked girls? Was that possible? Was I just…wrong about everything? Fuck, was there something wrong with me? Maybe there was something wrong with these distinctions. Maybe not all of them were true dichotomies. Hmm….</p>
<p>Thankfully, I had (drum roll please) THE INTERNET! Yes, the Internet. I did some searches. I surfed a bunch of sites. I read a lot of porn. I had some more pretty confused orgasms. And then, I found this: The Kinsey Scale.</p>
<p>What was so interesting about the Kinsey scale was that it introduced me to this idea that there were gradations in sexual orientation. That&#8217;s when it clicked: I&#8217;m probably some kind of bisexual. So, ignoring for a moment the limitations of this concept, I figured that if there were gradations in sexual orientation, maybe there were gradations in a bunch of those other dichotomies.</p>
<p>Of course, it turns out, yes, there are. There&#8217;s a big wide world of queer between the poles of heteronormativity, switches enjoy varying consensual sexual power differentials, and even when it comes to anatomical characteristics there are varying degrees of intersexuality that mix male and female. So, long story short, even though I really liked that toothbrush, I eventually upgraded to a strap-on because I knew that one&#8217;s gender identity, such as man or woman, and the enjoyment one gets from a particular sexual activity, such as penis-in-vagina sexual intercourse or receptive buttsex, are in no way directly correlated.</p>
<p>Sure, sometimes I want penetration to be about power, but it never had to be anymore, because now I had the freedom, and the power to decide how anything outside of me would affect me. I found that the better I got at decoupling an activity from a preconceived notion of what it means, the more fun sex became. And even when I do choose to get penetrated submissively, it always has to be about good sex first and foremost, not about some misguided morality or sexist system of beliefs.</p>
<p>Okay, I know this is a talk at a conference about sexuality, but let&#8217;s return for a moment to KinkForAll&#8217;s tagline:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://kinkforall.org/"><p>A serendipitous, ad-hoc unconference about the intersection of sexuality with the <strong>rest of life</strong>.</p></blockquote>
<p>What about the rest of life? Are dichotomies there, too? You betcha! Here&#8217;s an obvious one:</p>
<ul>
<li>Black vs. White (or, more generally, race)</li>
</ul>
<p>And here&#8217;s how we know that&#8217;s a false dichotomy:</p>
<ul>
<li>Barack Obama</li>
<li>halle berry, jordan sparks, tony parker, derek jeter, tyson beckford (he&#8217;s jamaican and chinese), slash (the drummer from guns n roses), lisa wu hartwell</li>
</ul>
<p>Here&#8217;s a not-so-obvious dichotomy, but one I bet most people who came to see me speak had to think about at least a little bit before they came here:</p>
<ul>
<li>Public / private &#8211;&gt; Out / closeted</li>
</ul>
<p>For those that don&#8217;t know, when Sara Eileen and I co-founded KinkForAll, we took some very heavy criticism from people who believed that the essentially open and public nature of KinkForAll events were &#8220;recklessly endangering&#8221; participants, that we would be &#8220;outing&#8221; people. I believe this criticism was spawned from a belief in that false dichotomy: that to be public is to be out, that in order to have adequate privacy, people of sexuality minorities must be closeted.</p>
<p>That falsehood needlessly segregates sexuality apart from the rest of our lives. In reality, no one is ever completely in the closet or out of it. You might be out about some things to some people, but not out to others. By coming to KinkForAll events, people are forced to grapple with the reality that the closet is not a binary.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another one that KinkForAll events make some people grapple with:</p>
<ul>
<li>Academic / non-academic (education)</li>
<p>also known as</p>
<li>educated / uneducated</li>
<li>graduate / drop-out</li>
</ul>
<p>I like this one because I&#8217;m a middle-school drop-out. But anyway, after she gave a presentation at the very first KinkForAll in New York City, <a href="http://worthlessdrivel.net/2009/03/18/kink-for-all-new-york-city/">Emily Rutherford wrote this in her blog</a> about the experience:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://worthlessdrivel.net/2009/03/18/kink-for-all-new-york-city/"><p>I think that a lot of what was exciting about [KinkForAll] is the way that the format combines academic and non-academic modes of talking about sex and sexuality. The “conference” is an academic model in a way that many existing modes of social interaction for sexuality groups aren’t, but this conference didn’t presume any academic background or qualifications. I think that [KinkForAll] bridged gaps between different registers of discussion, taking academese down a peg while applying a theoretical and philosophical level to more casual conversations.</p></blockquote>
<p>KinkForAll is not really an &#8220;organization,&#8221; just individuals acting in concert toward a share goal; a collective, maybe. I was urged, numerous times, to trademark KinkForAll and a few people thought it needed to be a registered 501(c)3 organization to really make a difference at all. But that&#8217;s just another false dichotomy, because we don&#8217;t need to be a 501(c)3 to make a difference.</p>
<p>Indeed, the millennial generation&#8211;our generation&#8211;is recognizing more and more false dichotomies, and younger people are consistently speaking up to make a difference. That&#8217;s what <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Jay">David Jay</a> did in 2001, when he was a 19 year old undergraduate student at Wesleyan University just a few hours from here. David said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Sexuality is like any other activity. There are people for whom skydiving, chocolate cake and soccer are their world. But some people don&#8217;t like skydiving, chocolate cake or soccer. There&#8217;s no reason to focus your energy and attention on something you feel no reason to do anything about.</p></blockquote>
<p>That year, David founded <a href="http://asexuality.org/">The Asexuality Visibility and Education Network</a> (AVEN), which became the online headquarters for the asexuality movement. David recognized that even sex drive itself is correctly seen by many as coupled to dichotomies; that mens&#8217; drives is necessarily stronger than womens&#8217;, for instance. Contrary to popular belief, sex is not a compulsion, and the desire for sex is not a universally shared instinct.</p>
<p>I believe AVEN&#8217;s work is enormously important because rape culture will dissipate and victim-blaming will stop only when everyone understands that our sex drives&#8211;our feelings of lust&#8211;are an independent facet of our sociosexual makeup. Men are no more or less interested in sex because they are men than women are. Perhaps counter-intuitively, asexuality is the keystone that supports a healthily sexual society.</p>
<p>All right, so, let&#8217;s review. Dichotomies come in two flavors: true and false. Both kinds are useful, and potentially sexy, but not good to confuse. So don&#8217;t let &#8220;man&#8221; or &#8220;woman&#8221; jail you. Don&#8217;t even let &#8220;animal&#8221; or &#8220;person&#8221; jail you! Hell, The Supreme Court isn&#8217;t letting the insignificant detail of corporeal existence prevent corporations from being people!</p>
<p>The bottom line is this: don&#8217;t wait for permission to do or be something that doesn&#8217;t fit into whatever or wherever other people happen to think you are. You don&#8217;t need someone&#8217;s permission to break out of a false dichotomy, or to become empowered.</p>
<p>You just do it. You <em>can</em> do it. We broke out of restrictive dichotomies just being at KinkForAll Providence! You&#8217;re doing it now if you&#8217;re watching this video, &#8216;cuz you&#8217;re thinking. So you don&#8217;t need to wait for your schools, or parents, or your teachers to fill you with knowledge, or to give you permission to grow in whatever direction you want. You&#8217;re doing it already.</p>
<p>You become empowered whenever you do what you can to make our communities places we can be proud of, no matter how small an act it is. Cuz, y&#8217;see, your impact, even through small things, like sharing a link to some educational resource like the one I followed to find the Kinsey scale when I was a teenager, are kind of a big deal.</p>
<p>People with destructive goals are usually people who feel personally disempowered. So to be creative, you need to empower everyone to speak up, to have a presence—even people you don&#8217;t totally agree with.</p>
<p>And thinking about that, and seeing as how I broached this subject of dichotomies with quotes from a writer, I thought it fitting to end with another quote from another, recently passed writer, Howard Zinn. Howard Zinn said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Small acts, when multiplied by millions of people, can transform the world.</p></blockquote>
<p>KinkForAll is one of my small acts. Now it&#8217;s your turn. :)</p></blockquote>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having cast aside the traditional mode of economic security—a 9-5 job—I now find myself with a slew of new opportunities. Now it&#8217;s up to me to start following up on them. I was asked to write an essay for Furry Girl&#8216;s latest independent porn site, Cocksexual.com. Unlike most porn sites, whose mere descriptions turn me [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having cast aside the traditional mode of economic security—a 9-5 job—I now find myself with a slew of new opportunities. Now it&#8217;s up to me to start following up on them.</p>
<p>I was asked to write an essay for <a href="http://feminisnt.com">Furry Girl</a>&#8216;s latest independent porn site, <a href="http://Cocksexual.com/">Cocksexual.com</a>. Unlike most porn sites, whose mere descriptions turn me right the fuck off, when Furry Girl described her vision of Cocksexual, I was actually intrigued. On the homepage, she calls it, <q cite="http://cocksexual.com/">pansexual porn featuring hot models of all orientations and genders. Here, you&#8217;ll find none of those tacky &#8220;lesbian&#8221; scenes with discount-bin strapons, or the cliché Mistress Fetishqueen fucking her worthless male submissive</q>. Now that, I thought, I could get behind. Or in front of, depending.</p>
<p>So when Furry Girl asked me to write a piece for the launch of her site, I didn&#8217;t have any trouble and what I came up with was a touch more personal than even I was prepared for. Here&#8217;s an excerpt from <a href="http://www.cocksexual.com/articles/whyilove.html">my essay on Cocksexual.com</a>:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.cocksexual.com/articles/whyilove.html"><p>When I first tentatively explored anal sex, which I began doing in the shower using the handle of a discarded toothbrush, I thought what I wanted was the woman&#8217;s role, passive and receptive. At that age, surrounded as I was by the false hegemonic view of penetration as being the same as masculinity, what else could I think? Maybe I was really a woman, because if being a man meant a distaste for anal pleasure, then I certainly wasn&#8217;t one of those.</p>
<p>But as the years went by I discovered, to my admitted surprise, that I&#8217;m not a woman. I&#8217;m a man. One&#8217;s gender identity, such as man or woman, and the enjoyment one gets from a particular sexual activity, such as penis-in-vagina sexual intercourse or strap-on sex, are in no way directly correlated. So too are sexual orientation and enjoying anal sex distinct from one another. I&#8217;ve had anal sex with both men and women, but I&#8217;ve so far enjoyed being penetrated by the women a lot more. For me, a big part of the fun is seeing their enthusiasm.</p></blockquote>
<p>You should check out <a href="http://www.cocksexual.com/articles/whyilove.html">the full essay</a> over on Furry Girl&#8217;s site. There&#8217;s also a really detailed, really personable article by <a href="http://thomasroche.com/">Thomas Roche</a>, and another by <a href="http://essin-em.com/">Essin Em</a>. It&#8217;s pretty neat to find myself in the company of such well-known writers.</p>
<p>Finally, I made some money writing that essay and <strong>I&#8217;m now looking for paid writing gigs that align with my worldview and message</strong>, as this one did. The feeling of getting financially <em>supported</em>—rather than financially &#8220;compensated&#8221;—for sharing an intimate part of myself in writing is absolutely wonderful. I sincerely hope I can find or make more opportunities to do it again.</p>
<p>Thanks for the first opportunity, Furry Girl, and good luck with Cocksexual.com. I hope it shows more people, especially more men, that they can enjoy strap-on sex without the stigmas so many other pornographers drown it in.</p>
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		<title>MaleSubmissionArt.com or Why I Am Crowdsourcing My Own Pornography</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, here&#8217;s the problem: There is not enough porn wherein submissive men are the erotic subject matter. If you&#8217;ve read even a little bit of this blog, you&#8217;re probably already well-versed in many of my rants about how paltry the available porn is for submissive men like me (and, by extension, dominant women like Eileen). [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, here&#8217;s the problem: <strong>There is not enough porn wherein submissive men are the erotic subject matter.</strong></p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve read even a little bit of this blog, you&#8217;re probably already well-versed in many of <a href="/label/bitter-and-jealous/">my rants</a> about how paltry the available porn is for <a href="/2008/01/04/americas-sexual-sampler-platter-everything-but-me-is-on-the-menu/">submissive men like me</a> (and, by extension, dominant women like <a href="//bloodylaughter.com/">Eileen</a>). But the problem is actually two fold. One problem is, of course, that there&#8217;s simply <a href="http://bitchyjones.wordpress.com/2007/11/08/making-porn-out-of-coconuts/">an insanely disturbing general <em>lack</em> of the stuff</a>. In fact, it&#8217;s so bad that if you <a href="//google.com/search?q=male+submission+art">Google for the three words &#8220;male submission art,&#8221;</a> you actually get female submission links littering the first page of results.</p>
<p>This is actually even worse if you go actively hunting for porn with the hopes of finding erotica depicting <em>men who are submissive</em>. Instead, you&#8217;re much, much <a href="http://eroticacoverwatch.wordpress.com/">more likely to find erotica depicting <em>women</em></a> <em>who are dominant</em>. This is actually a <em>major nuisance</em> for <a href="//beyondthehills.wordpress.com/2008/09/28/where-is-the-male-submission-art/">a lot</a> of <a href="//bloodylaughter.com/2008/05/21/how-to-write-porn-for-me/">people</a>—including many submissive men, I might add.</p>
<p>Arguably even more frustrating than that, however, is that what male submissive porn <em>is</em> out there is <a href="/2007/08/14/more-men-need-to-cry-on-the-big-porn-screen/">total</a> <a href="/2007/12/11/men-and-masks-in-porn/">shit</a> relative to the porn <a href="/2007/07/30/there-is-so-little-space-for-me/">available for other</a> sorts of <a href="/2008/01/07/because-submissive-is-an-orientation/">orientations</a>. In such erotica (unless it&#8217;s <a href="http://bitchyjones.wordpress.com/2008/02/08/gay-men-win-at-dirty-pretty-pictures-again/">gay imagery</a>, of course) men are <a href="http://beyondthehills.wordpress.com/2008/11/01/why-i-revile-the-memory-of-arthur-pendragon/">portrayed as impotent, <em>ugly</em> creatures</a>. That is <em>not</em> sexy. <a href="http://unspeakableaxe.com/?p=178">It&#8217;s also <em>insulting</em></a>.</p>
<h3>Announcing MaleSubmissionArt.com: Art and visual erotica that depicts masculine submission</h3>
<p>My proposed solution? <strong>I launch <a href="http://malesubmissionart.com/">MaleSubmissionArt.com</a> and have people <a href="/playground/malesubmissionartcom/#ways-to-contribute">send me hot pics of men being submissive</a></strong>. I figure there just has to be enough people out there as fed up with this situation as I am, and if I can get some of them to send me contributions from their personal stashes of erotica or while they are browsing the Internet hunting for more, I&#8217;ll be able to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crowdsourcing">crowd-source</a> the content for a shared porn collection full of the kind of stuff we actually like.</p>
<p>Best of all, even though this project is based around me wanting to have one easy place to go get beautiful pictures of sexy tortured men, it has the potential to really change the way people think about creating erotica around the notions of male submission. Specifically, as the site description states:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://malesubmissionart.com/"><p>We showcase beautiful imagery where men and other male-identified people are submissive subjects. We aim to challenge stereotypes of the &#8220;pathetic&#8221; submissive man.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;d be thrilled to be able to get a steady stream of hot male submission action into everyone&#8217;s RSS feeds daily, but to do that I need your help in scouting out sources for this kind of porn. I&#8217;m very much hoping that those of us in the sex blogging community will spread the word about the site. I&#8217;m also hoping that those of you able to contribute will do so in any of the ways I&#8217;ve outlined on <a href="/playground/malesubmissionartcom/#ways-to-contribute">the MaleSubmissionArt.com project page</a>.</p>
<p>So, do you think we&#8217;ll be able to stem the tide of portraying submissive men in horribly unattractive ways?</p>
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		<title>Rocking the Boat. By which I mean I also enjoy a good facial</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>maymay</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eileen is always berating me for being an ass. It&#8217;s true: I&#8217;m kind of an ass. I&#8217;m probably mostly an ass when I&#8217;m wiggling my bum at her trying to get attention so she&#8217;ll spank me or fuck me or something like that, but she claims I&#8217;m also often an ass when I&#8217;m writing in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eileen is always berating me for being an ass. It&#8217;s true: I&#8217;m kind of an ass. I&#8217;m probably <em>mostly</em> an ass when <a href="http://bloodylaughter.com/2007/08/17/posterius-maymayeus/">I&#8217;m wiggling my bum at her</a> trying to get attention so she&#8217;ll spank me or <a href="http://bloodylaughter.com/2008/07/29/sex-and-nachos/">fuck me or something like that</a>, but she claims I&#8217;m also often an ass when I&#8217;m writing in mailing lists or leaving comments on people&#8217;s blogs. This is fair, I like to rock the boat—I&#8217;ll admit I enjoy the confrontational style of debates.</p>
<p>I very recently did exactly this (although I was much nicer than I could have been) on a local young-persons-in-Sydney group&#8217;s mailing list. I remarked that I had done so, and due to popular demand and interest with regards to my remarks, am going to share a single <ins datetime="2008-09-04T07:05:29+00:00">edited</ins> excerpt of that thread here. In case anyone is local and cares to join the group, <a href="http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/under30sydbdsm/message/2033">here is my original post</a>.</p>
<p>The year is 2008. The place is Sydney, Australia. The topic is male bisexuality in the BDSM community. The population of the scene here…well, the population of the <em>country</em> is barely the size of the <em>state</em> I came from. These people are not &#8220;simple, country folk&#8221; by any stretch of the imagination, yet <a href="/2008/04/21/my-first-two-months-in-the-sydney-bdsm-scene/">I can&#8217;t help but feel as though I&#8217;ve been transported to a kink scene from ten years ago</a>:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/under30sydbdsm/message/2033"><p>Congratulations in advance to those of you who actually follow and read the linked references. Those of you who don&#8217;t will assume I am just rocking the boat. I am, of course (rocking the boat that is)—though I&#8217;m trying to do so while adding significant substance to the conversation.</p>
<p>On Aug 4, 2008, at 5:07 PM, <ins datetime="2008-09-04T07:23:06+00:00">Person A</ins> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>In my brief time in the sydney bdsm scene, i&#8217;ve noticed girls are a lot more willing to play with other girls than guys are to play with other guys. why do yo think this is? Do you think bisexuality is more comon in girls in the vanila world too. Do girls who engage in bdsm play with other girls even consider themselves bisexual. looking forward to your comments</p>
<p>for the record I am 100% straight male.</p></blockquote>
<p>So is my male dom top friend who is dating a boy. Though labels like &#8220;staight&#8221; or &#8220;bi&#8221; can be useful, they are ultimately meaningless. It&#8217;s actions, not words, that define people and who they are.</p>
<p><ins datetime="2008-09-04T07:23:06+00:00">Person A</ins> then wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>I&#8217;d feel uncomfy playing with a guy, even if just tieing me up etc. how do other guys feel.</p></blockquote>
<p>Lots of &#8220;straight&#8221; guys feel this way while encouraging girls to get it on with one another, and if you haven&#8217;t noticed most guys in the BDSM community you&#8217;re a part of are straight. Perhaps that&#8217;s why you&#8217;ve noticed that girls are a lot more willing to play with other girls than guys are to play with other guys. Huh. Imagine that.</p>
<p>See also this satire: <a href="http://bloodylaughter.com/2007/07/26/eureka/">http://bloodylaughter.com/2007/07/26/eureka/</a></p>
<p>On Aug 4, 2008, at 5:34 PM, <ins datetime="2008-09-04T07:23:06+00:00">Person B</ins> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>that&#8217;s because girls are just the more attractive sex, is my guess.</p></blockquote>
<p><ins datetime="2008-09-04T07:23:06+00:00">Person B</ins>, we&#8217;re both lucky we don&#8217;t really know each other because it makes it a lot easier for me to tell you that you&#8217;re being an ass right now.</p>
<p>On Aug 4, 2008, at 7:54 PM, <ins datetime="2008-09-04T07:23:06+00:00">Person B</ins> tried to redeem his statements by qualifying them like this:</p>
<blockquote><p>I meant that in the most objective way possible, which is not to say that I don&#8217;t find certain guys attractive and would even consider certain BDSM scenarios involving that person, but it happens very<br />
very rarely for me and he&#8217;d have to be pretty fit. And I think most girls would agree with me that girls tend to be more attractive than guys in general. Is that true or have just been speaking to the the wrong girls?</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re oozing the kind of heteronormativity that makes me dislike heteronormative spaces—like this list right now. Personal preferences are one thing, but trying to pass these off as &#8220;statements intended in the most objective way possible&#8221; belies your ignorance. Again, I say that heteronormative culture encourages exactly this kind of thinking.</p>
<p>See also:</p>
<p><a href="/2007/08/21/i-want-to-be-a-pretty-boy/">http://maybemaimed.com/2007/08/21/i-want-to-be-a-pretty-boy/</a><br />
<a href="/2007/12/12/the-rules-of-flirting-are-sexist-and-wrong/">http://maybemaimed.com/2007/12/12/the-rules-of-flirting-are-sexist-and-wrong/</a><br />
<a href="http://bitchyjones.wordpress.com/2007/07/17/the-unfairest-of-them-all/">http://bitchyjones.wordpress.com/2007/07/17/the-unfairest-of-them-all/</a></p>
<p>On Aug 4, 2008, at 6:02 PM, <ins datetime="2008-09-04T07:23:06+00:00">Person C</ins> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>hi all, long time lurker first time poster. I consider myself a straight male as i can&#8217;t really see myself being with a male sexually without bondage being a huge part. It was something that i was very nervous about until my Mistress at the time introduced me to the concept of playing firstly with couples and then eventually she was happy (as was i) for me to play solely with makes. Fem Dom&#8217;s are still my preference however my desire to please outways if there are dangly bits or not. Now i&#8217;m &#8220;out&#8221; i hope to catch up with some of you soon</p></blockquote>
<p>And then, right on cue, on Aug 4, 2008, at 6:33 PM, <ins datetime="2008-09-04T07:23:06+00:00">Person D</ins> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Here&#8217;s my theories.</p>
<p>Girl on girl is a bit more socially acceptable than guy on guy due to the fact with guys there is the implied image of things up the arse.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, exactly. God forbid something goes the &#8220;wrong way&#8221; up a man&#8217;s butt. Of course, every straight guy knows women&#8217;s asses are a two way street.</p>
<p>This is precisely why the feared &#8220;image of things up the [guy's] arse&#8221; has become the femdom cumshot in porn, and it&#8217;s where this (insulting) notion of &#8220;forced bi&#8221;—which is pretty much exclusively a femdom/malesub dynamic—comes from. Now, I love getting fucked in my ass, but I love getting fucked on my penis, too. In other words, being the person who does the penetrating does not equate to having power, or masculinity. Perverting (and I use that word deliberately) anatomy to create falsehoods of power imbalance is nothing more complicated than plain stupid.</p>
<p>See also:<br />
<a href="http://bloodylaughter.com/2007/07/11/fuck-him/">http://bloodylaughter.com/2007/07/11/fuck-him/</a><br />
<a href="/2007/08/12/pegging-gets-mainstream-attention-and-kinky-porn-gets-rightfully-slapped-upside-its-head/">http://maybemaimed.com/2007/08/12/pegging-gets-mainstream-attention-and-kinky-porn-gets-rightfully-slapped-upside-its-head/</a></p>
<p><ins datetime="2008-09-04T07:05:29+00:00">Portions removed at the author&#8217;s request.</ins></p>
<p>You&#8217;ve hit the nail on the head, though you&#8217;re not tying it all together quite yet. This is the same masculine heteronormative sexuality that defines male sexuality based on dominance and power, only it&#8217;s now happening in reverse. Where the former circumstance is one in which a man is dominant and thus validates hegemonic masculinity, this circumstance is one in which a man is submissive to another <em>even more masculine/dominant/powerful man</em> and thus validates hegemonic masculinity. As far as genders studies students are concerned, this is just a situation where you have six of one thing and half dozen of the other.</p>
<p>In other words, men&#8217;s fantasies that are geared around being submissive to a &#8220;real man&#8221; merely enforce the hegemonic masculine stereotype. Now, that&#8217;s not <em>bad</em> (it&#8217;s quite sexy—I personally love the idea of submitting to a strong, dominant, het guy I find physically attractive) it&#8217;s just very, well, we&#8217;ve all been there and done that.</p>
<p>See also:<br />
<a href="http://bitchyjones.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/submissive-men-and-the-humanity-gap/">http://bitchyjones.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/submissive-men-and-the-humanity-gap/</a><br />
<a href="/2007/12/18/how-an-outdated-view-of-masculinity-ignores-the-needs-of-all-men/">http://maybemaimed.com/2007/12/18/how-an-outdated-view-of-masculinity-ignores-the-needs-of-all-men/</a></p>
<p>Anyway, for more insights on gender and male sexuality, see this 10 minute video:</p>
<p><a href="/2007/12/06/transgender-basics/">http://maybemaimed.com/2007/12/06/transgender-basics/</a></p>
<p>Regards,<br />
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-maymay<br />
Blog: http://maybemaimed.com<br />
Volunteering: <a href="http://ConversioVirium.org/author/maymay ">http://ConversioVirium.org/author/maymay</a></p></blockquote>
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