Reading through my own personal journal’s archives reminded me of how early on many of the thoughts, feelings, and ideas that I express today have been inside of me. It’s also shown me how some things changed, and looking at which things have changed and which have not is an interesting pursuit in itself. This post, below, which I wrote on April 26th, 2005, references a Singletailing demonstration I did with an occasional play partner and friend of mine at Conversio Virium that was very well-received.
Back then, I didn’t even identify publicly as submissive, and in fact I was such a stalwart bottom that more often than not I was often described as being one of the “toppiest bottoms” people knew. I knew how I liked to get hit, with what, where, and when. I would scoff at attempts to get me on my knees and never, ever wiggled cutely.
Along those lines, I never used titles in my play or otherwise, because that’s something submissives did. I cared little for honorifics, not out of a lack of respect but out of a narrow-minded view engendered by my environment of what they were for and how they could be used. Of course, now I use some titles more than others, and have even grown to enjoy their use at times. That’s not to say that titles are “better BDSM” or “more real” or anything of the sort (that’s bullshit), but I have managed to broaden my view of what they can do.
This post from April 2005 is republished here in part because I think it’s a pretty good entry, in part because I still strongly believe the things I said were true for me then and are true for me now, and because I’m way too busy to spend that much time writing posts at the moment but I’d really like to keep some new content flowing into the blogosphere from this blog. Enjoy.
I’ve already decided this kink-blog thing is a step in the right direction. Many reasons, not least of which is the enormous relief I feel to be able to unburden myself of these musings and, later, look back on them as I do with all my other writings. Another benefit, however, (beyond the social ones of sharing these writings with pertinent folk, such as those with whom I play) is that it will lead to reflections I’ve not been able to access for a very long time.
Eileen brought up some great points about tonight’s CV singletailing demo/scene (was it a demo or was it a scene?), which I did not have the presence of mind when I was writing the earlier entry about it to make note of. Specifically, I said
Sir.Titles are a funny thing. They’re amazingly common, I dare say deeply loved and deemed important to many, and yet they make very little sense to me. Calling someone (my top) “Sir” or “Ma’am” (or “Mistress” or “Master” or whatever) during scenes just isn’t something I’ve ever had the inclination to do.
That’s not to say I have much of an issue with it. I’ve occasionally done this during private play sessions with past partners. In every case I can recall, though, it was either initiated by their request or due to a role-play scenario which was currently unfolding. It makes sense to me if, say, a partner and I were playing out some specific scenario with very defined roles to then refer to my partner with a name respective of their role in the scene. After all, we’re already role playing.
But scenes, for me, are not usually role play. I love BDSM. I do not love roleplaying (though I do enjoy it on occasion). When I scene, I’m not “the victim” or “the slave” or anything like that. I’m me, plain and simple—and it’s so much hotter that way, too.
Similarly, my tops aren’t “my Master” or “my Lady” or anything. They’re just themselves as well (at least they are in my head, most of the time) and again, that’s so much hotter for me. I can’t speak from a top’s perspective, but Eileen expressed this issue for herself rather eloquently:
I feel like I’d rather be a scary-yet-caring version of myself, rather than a scary-yet-caring hypothetical dominant construct.Three things about this statement:
- First,
version of myself. Yes; when I bottom to someone, I have chosen to bottom to them, not their image or their reputation. (Sidenote: For now I’m going to assume that this is one of the reasons playing with pro Dommes at the parties they invited me to was never as much fun as playing with lifestylers in clubs or friends at home; pro Dommes are constantly keeping an eye out for potential clients, and showing off what they can do to me is an advertisement for themselves more than it is a scene for me. Fun, but lacking.)- Second,
scary-yet-caring. One of the overriding themes of my fantasies, for as long as I can remember having fantasies, is the notion of feeling precious to someone, specifically, my top. (You will get smacked if you make a LOTR reference in the comments.)- Third,
hypothetical dominant construct, which ties back in with the first thing. Titles make things fake for me. They turn something real into something imagined. They build hypothetical dominant (and submissive) constructs of who we are in our heads.For some scenes, like the one during the demo, this is fine. Other times, such as during structured role play scenes, it’s even great. For other scenes, it just has no place because it wrecks the realism. (Sidenote: I have a huge thing with realism. For instance, it’s one of the reasons I simultaneously love and fear knife play. I have to write about that sometime in the future.)
So, I said Sir. That’s not really the big deal. The big deal is that I said it publicly, and not just publicly out at a club where it’s noisy and dark and no one can really hear. No, I said it in a room full of people who were neither doing nor saying anything because they were intently watching his whip and my welts.
The effects of this was interesting. Fortunately, singletails hurt (god, do they ever!) so at the point where I was counting strokes there was little actual thinking going on inside my head beyond “Oh fffuck!” and similar. I neither wanted to nor do I think I could have, at that point, think too much about anything that was happening. (Also, see earlier entry about feeling free, relaxed, and not self-conscious, which helped.)
When asked if I could count strokes, my response was a tentative
I think so.When pressed, it did take me a moment to respond. Why? What was going through my head at that moment? I’m not sure, but after the above reflection I think I entered “a role”—specifically, “the demo bottom.”That sounds obvious; may, you do realize you were actually demo bottoming, right? Well, yes, of course I do. But in the role, it wasn’t me at CV being hit with the singletail while leaning against the chalkboard playing with my top anymore. Instead, it was me as the demo bottom at CV…. The difference is subtle, but the difference was there, and it did change the scene. (It didn’t make it worse or anything like that, it just changed it.)
At first, I was being singletailed and then, later, the demo bottom was being singletailed. Again, that’s not worse. It is enjoyable in an exhibitionistic sort of way to perform in such a manner and such a performance is not necessarily less authentic, though it has more potential to be. The devil, as always, is in the details.
My conclusion, then, is that for me (like most things) titles in scenes are tools to be used when appropriate. It’s important for me (as well as for my play partners) to understand how things like this affect my head and what responses they will get from me. All of this needs a follow-up entry, but that’s for another time. It all also ties in very strongly with the realism bit which I mentioned earlier, so that will need to be explored as well.
For now, however, I’m headed to the shower and to tend to my skin. I’m really looking forward to that first hit of the water on my back. After that, it’s bed time. ‘Night, all.
by Mirehn
10 Feb 2008 at 05:17
I find it interesting how far our respective views of the purpose of titles differ. To my mind, whether I am domming or subbing, I tend to use/demand titles. This does not turn me into someone I’m not, more just denote respect of varying levels (from sir to master, for example). It reminds both parties constantly of the dynamic, and makes everything seem like an expression of power-play when those words are used. When I am domming I often increase this effect hypnotically, there is nothing that puts someone into a subby head space better than feeling waves of submissive pleasure and thoughts whenever they address their dom in a term of respect.
Also, I note that recently you have talked about role-playing, the time when you were chained in the bath springs to mind, in which you seemed to enjoy reveling in the fantasy. Has your opinion changed since the blog post you have referenced?
by axe
10 Feb 2008 at 17:35
Interesting stuff as always.
For me, It’s something very hard to put my finger on. If I play with someone and they feed off my using a title, I can tell and it does make me feel more submissive if I actually mean it when I say it. If someone is playing with me and just uses it to use it (and not as a tool) then it feels less meaningful.
I getcha.
Hope we have a chance to hang before you head out of town.
by maymay
10 Feb 2008 at 17:36
One reason I don’t like titles is because they are so inexorably linked with many people’s ideas of respect. Titles are not an intrinsic expression of respect, they’re simply one way to show it. Everyone can (and should) show respect to your bottom as well as your top regardless of what titles you use to address them.
I don’t like that so many people think titles equals respect, because they don’t.
This post was from April 2005, so it was written very long ago. Also, for me, role-playing is very distinct from just playing, and most of the time when I’m in scene or submitting to someone, I am not role-playing, so titles feels fake and role-playing-like and I don’t like that. That said, if I am role-playing, titles can be a lot of fun.
by Mirehn
11 Feb 2008 at 15:42
“One reason I don’t like titles is because they are so inexorably linked with many people’s ideas of respect. Titles are not an intrinsic expression of respect, they’re simply one way to show it. Everyone can (and should) show respect to your bottom as well as your top regardless of what titles you use to address them.
I don’t like that so many people think titles equals respect, because they don’t.”
Titles do not equal respect, however they do denote it. Just like asking someone’s permission denotes respect. A Dom (although they may and should have the greatest respect for their Sub) often does not show it during a scene, or at least through traditional means. They don’t ask permission, they act aggressively and, well, dominating-ly, and use diminutive titles (“slave” for example). Now they might show respect in other ways, especially if this is a relationship rather than just a scene, however those overt methods are often not used. A Sub does ask permission, acts subdued and obedient, and uses titles such as “Sir”, or “Ma’am”, which denote a certain overt respect, and deference.
Note this is not the only way by any means to practice D/s, but it is a valid one; and one in which the title still leaves both parties as themselves, and does not preclude mutual respect and care between the two individuals.
by maymay
12 Feb 2008 at 05:09
Mirehn, there’s nothing I disagree with in your comment. I’d only add that submissives don’t need to show respect to dominants by virtue of their submission and the other’s dominance. In fact, overt respect and deference is something I never show to dominants who haven’t earned it from me, and I don’t see anything wrong with that. Dominants are just people, and just like the elderly, they don’t deserve any additional respect just because of who they are.
by Mirehn
13 Feb 2008 at 17:28
Indeed, you are quite correct, I didn’t intend to imply otherwise. It is an extension of what you so aptly remarked upon, when talking about the Dom who accosted you and Rona a little while back. Merely because someone calls themselves/is dominant they deserve no extra respect, overt or otherwise (and by extension someone who calls themselves/is submissive deserves no less respect, overt or otherwise), whether it be respect by word (like with titles) or by deed. I am very glad we agree on this issue!
by sod
17 Feb 2008 at 07:12
Bon Voyage. Love
by janeyruth
23 Feb 2008 at 01:42
“toppiest bottom” I love that!
http://janeyruthsscreenplays.blogspot.com/
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