In the past month-and-a-bit, I’ve touched down in San Francisco, found a studio apartment to rent, and began looking for some kind of employment. (I’m still looking, actually.)
My first BDSM event was a “Peer Rope Workshop” at the SF Citadel that Fivestar, an amazingly talented rigger and self-bondage enthusiast, alerted me to. Amid the hustle and bustle of looking at apartments and walking around the city I want to call home, I planned to go to the event and meet up with Fivestar there. I had no expectations, only the fears that my overall abysmal experiences in New York and Sydney would be repeated, and the hope that somehow, in some way, San Francisco would quickly prove itself better for me than these other places.
It’s early still but suffice it to say that after that first peer rope workshop a little over a month ago, while I still have hopes for finding a job, making something of a life, and finding friends here—and not “BDSM-scene friends,” most of whom I cannot actually stomach even for a single night—I’m pretty convinced that there simply is no BDSM mecca. San Francisco has a reputation for being one of the best places on the planet for freely expressing all kinds of sexuality, and yet I still feel like I belong on some other planet.
The SF Citadel is an unassuming building. After I entered, paying my $5 so-called “donation” (for seriously, why don’t people just call it a fucking admissions ticket), I joined the folks seated on a bunch of couches and talking amongst themselves. Introducing myself, I met a number of people, whose names I can’t remember and with whom I had no substantial conversation at all. I was doing my best not to begin drawing analogies between the people there and the people in New York I fled halfway across the world and now across the country to avoid.
Eventually the workshop was due to start and the facilitator ushered everyone downstairs.
“Does anybody not have a partner?” the facilitator asked after a very familiar introduction. I raised my hand. He pointed behind me at a woman sitting in the corner, also raising her hand. “Turn around and say hello!” he instructed me. So I did.
“Are you a bottom?” the single woman asked me almost immediately.
“Yes,” I nodded. “You, too?” She nodded in response. “Cool,” I said, feeling rather undeterred. “Want to switch off tying with me?” I offered.
The woman shook her head so vehemently I thought she might vomit on me in an instant. “Oh, no,” she declared. “I don’t do that.”
I wanted to ask why, but her response was so adamant that I lost any interest I might have had in speaking to her. I tried to keep talking anyway, asking her something or other about something I care so little about I can’t even remember what it was. As pairs of others began uncoiling rope around us, she went on to tell me about the venue’s pet dog and how the dog was her friend, a story I overheard earlier in the evening and which she later repeated yet again to a man who arrived some time after our conversation lulled. The woman quickly offered herself as “a victim” to this man, and she soon found herself in rope.
I hung around Fivestar for the rest of the evening, at first watching and later helping to spot Fivestar’s self-knee suspension. (As an aside, Fivestar really is quite amazing with a bunch of rope. Watching self-bondage has never been so inspirational before, but when I watch Fivestar, the evident technical ability I witness simply makes me want to get better with rope myself.) Ultimately, I was happy to get the opportunity to interact with Fivestar more, which was my initial reason and motivation for showing up in the first place, although much of what Fivestar was doing was just not within my understanding and thus somewhat frustrating.
As the evening progressed, the workshop facilitator called out to the group, “So, as you’re learning now, tying up boys and girls is different.”
In the next instant, a tall man wearing a ripped black t-shirt standing in front of a bound, nearly naked woman called back, “Yeah, girls are fun to tie up!” I breathed a deep sigh of frustration and rolled my eyes, and most of the rest of my head, with what was very probably too much volume. I admit, I passed judgement on this man then and I decided I don’t like him.
I’m well aware that the biggest factor in whether or not I have a good time at these things is myself. I’m not patient or forgiving, and I’m predisposed to think the worst about the BDSM community, and many of the people in it. It takes an immense amount of energy and constant vigilance and mindfulness on my part to put these painful things out of my mind in any situation, old or new, public or private. Sometimes I succeed and sometimes I don’t but, I swear, I always try.
Out one night with Sarah Dopp, who generously treated me to dinner and ice cream earlier that week, I started thinking about how I’d like to present myself in this new city, how to position myself professionally, socially, and so forth. I’m not sure. There’s a lot I want to do; I want to continue to produce content for MaleSubmissionArt.com, I want to keep blogging about sex and tech, I want to find people with whom I can collaborate on these interests, but I don’t really have a clear picture of what to do to make that happen.
Go to more of the various sexuality and other events, I suppose. Maybe write an open letter to Kink, Inc. and directly share my views and frustrations with them. We’ll see.
Meanwhile, I present you, dear reader, with a similar choice: you read this, and you look at me, and you will of course think whatever you will think. “That boy is bitter and jealous, negative and malicious,” for example. (I’m almost sure quite a number of people think this about me.) Even if you do think that, though, I hope you ask yourself why I am this way. How did someone who so eagerly and so passionately wants to improve the common perceptions of BDSM that he literally wears himself down to illness and poverty to do it (to be blunt, my bank balance hasn’t been this low since before I was a teenager), how did he become so put off by the things he sees in the BDSM community? And then, I hope, you will take the next step and ask yourself what you can do to change that for the people who have yet to be so tainted as I have become.
In all seriousness, I’m asking you to ask this of yourself for the children.
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by Phalene
18 Aug 2009 at 19:32
There’s an old joke: “What do you call two lesbians moving in together with a u-haul?” “The first date.” which is what I think applies to this situation. There’s a tendency to overlook other people’s flaws if they share the right orientation, be it kink or same gender interest, and automatically assume that people in the niche group will be just like you.
You are a very kind, considerate enlightened man. Sadly being kinked doesn’t preclude a large swathe of the population from being an asshole, just like you happen to be an atheist but some kinked folks are blissfully happy with their Christian Domestic Discipline shtick. We can decide as individuals to make the world a better place, and in your case, succeed, but there’s always going to be some boor who announces ‘girls are fun to tie!’ and inopportune moments, because they can’t help being born kinked and an asshole and more than you can help being born kinked and a nice guy.
Do keep rolling your eyes though. It’s good to respond to that sort of idiocy with a frown.
~Pearl/Phalene
by terri
18 Aug 2009 at 21:51
you want to be accepted for who you are and how good you feel being your true self. neither the rope bottom nor the torn shirt hetero were accepting minds; they were very clearly closed off to seeing beyond their personal very little window on the world.
you could have met at a sandwich shop and you wouldnt have felt any better because who they are at their core isnt compatible for who are. expecting compatibility because youre all kinky is like saying all people with blue eyes will be friends. i think there are people for whom its enough to only talk kink and be friends on a single facet as
it were
maybe thats not how you are? i know its not how i am. i bring my
curiosity, my bad jokes, my passion for understanding ALL with me
because its ALL who i am. we may only relate on a rope level but if you wont accept the things that make me, me odds are we wont enjoy the rope times very much. kink is aboutbpeople first and connecting. you cant connect with a closed mind. especially someone with all the amazing colors & depth you have. its not about kink, its about finding people you belong with cuz the right ones will accept you as much as you accept them. :)
by terri
18 Aug 2009 at 21:53
just dont ask me how to find them cuz i have no freaking clue!!! im trying the uu
church to see if garners any possibilities.
by Jeanne
18 Aug 2009 at 23:38
I’m so sorry that San Francisco is turning out to be a disappointment.
And nothing that any comment offers will provide a solution for you. The world doesn’t always contain precisely for what we’re looking. Sometimes we have to dig, and sometimes, we don’t find exactly what we’d want.
And, of course, what you said about your own self being the largest contributing factor to your enjoyment of those events..is totally right, and you should always keep it in mind. (I have the balls to say so because I, too, get readily frustrated with and a bit judgmental of people.) But! That doesn’t mean you aren’t allowed to be a bit miffed with the community in San Francisco, or that you should think you’re not trying hard enough or any of that.
Chin up, though. You’ll find a niche that embraces you.
by maymay
19 Aug 2009 at 00:11
@Phalene & Terri: You both made a really good point that I agree with wholeheartedly and omitted from this blog post for the sake of brevity. An interest in sex alone doesn’t a friend—or a partner—make. I’m pretty sure somewhere else on this blog in years past I quoted Richard Evans Lee saying something along those lines before (but alas, I can’t find the reference now), and I certainly know that to be true.
Which is precisely where my intended-to-be blog post series that began with BDSM versus Kink: Nobody but your sex partner cares how you fuck was going: sex communities and industries are so ridiculously sexually explicit in terms of activity and expectation that every other facet of who we are as people gets forgotten or sidelined. If you haven’t seen it yet, check out Audacia Ray’s excellent short piece about this very issue.
@Jeanne:
Oh, I’m not certain San Francisco is turning out a disappointment quite yet, just that my first experience at the SF Citadel was less-than-superb. Firsts are always hard no matter what, and while I’m not going to cut “the community” a single millimeter of slack when it does something stupid, I don’t think I’m close to calling it quits on this town’s sex culture bubble yet.
Right. Which is why for such a long time I’ve been working on creating what I want, because I’m pretty damn sure that it actually doesn’t exist anywhere else. If it does, I would have heard about it by now. Cases in point: How to make my own space bigger (Conversio Virium-related post), KinkForAll and the evolution of sexuality communities, and so forth. :)
:) Yeah…. I don’t know if you’ve noticed this or not, but I don’t tend to cut myself much slack either. When I said I’m not patient or forgiving, I wasn’t implying bias against “the BDSM community” and a favor for myself. I’m just as impatient with myself as I am with others, if not more so. Frankly, I have pretty high personal standards. My biggest frustrations with other people revolves around the observation that many don’t seem to have similarly high standards for themselves.
by Sue
19 Aug 2009 at 10:24
its not about kink, its about finding people you belong with cuz the right ones will accept you as much as you accept them.
Do you accept them? Seems like you judge them as much as they judge you. And judge them for expressing their sexuality. Why shouldn’t a top in rush of pleasure express the source of his pleasure (i.e. that tying up girls is fun)? Why choose to take that personally? And it is a choice, after all.
In general, you have zero control over what other people do/say/look like, and only control over yourself. So why not control/choose how you interpret things? A slight shift in how you view these things might make a huge difference in how people react/interact to/with you.
Afterall, people often reflect back to us what we show them. If you are giving off “… bitter and jealous, negative and malicious,†vibes, then people aren’t all that likely to be drawn to you in the way you want. They aren’t likely to interact with you on a deep and meaningful level, even if they are deep and meaningful people. And they aren’t likely to care too much, nor should they be expected to, about why you appear “… bitter and jealous, negative and malicious,â€.
You’re quite a clever guy, I think you can figure out the mathematics of social interaction. But you have to look at the effect your variables (perception, attitude, judgment, behavior, level-of-scowliness) upon the equation of what you get in return (perception, attitude, judgment, behavior, level-of-scowliness).
Just a thought.
by terri
19 Aug 2009 at 12:59
your comment about standards — hits close to home for me! do i ‘expect’ a lot from others? well i didnt think so but seemingly i am. the thing is i dont expect anything more than what im willing to give of myself. which being wired as a ‘giver’ and having a high level of acceptance (& apparently being smarter than the average bear) , isnt in line with most other people so it seems like a lot in comparison. i can be passionate and enthused. im so sorry the rest of the world ISNT! you dont have to agree with me but i did expect to be foriven of my weirdnesses as i forgive them theirs.
by terri
19 Aug 2009 at 13:19
my perception of the line “tying up girls is fun” implied boys cant be fun to tie; i wont speak for maymay but i can see how it would be very easy for him to feel like he didnt belong after that comment or that he wssnt likely to be accepted by that person. no the comment wasnt about him personally and certainly didnt represent everyone’s views. but i also see the emotional impact of it. but it is an execellent point about rising above such things- an issue i struggle with myself
by maymay
19 Aug 2009 at 13:20
Yeah, you’re totally right, Sue. That’s exactly why I was making reference to my history. I have a pretty good memory, one good enough to remember the feelings of excitement and thrill years ago when I was first meeting the people I now hate. So sure, I could choose to interpret things differently, and given enough disregard for my self (not myself, but rather, the thing that I am), I could make an about-face and this post might have been extremely different. But it didn’t, and my point is that it turned out this way for a reason, which has a lot to do with “what other people do/say/look like”, as you put it.
by Sue
19 Aug 2009 at 14:29
I don’t mean to imply in any way, maymay, that you should disregard your Self in your interactions with others. Or even celebrate the BDSM gatherings (in my experience they tend to be pretty un-celebrate-able, if not down right icky) or the people who gather at them (who seem to find such gatherings to be a competition who can be the most icky, most offensive, and the most unrepresentative of what I find to be good and/or sexy about BDSM).
It’s not about them that I speak, it’s about you. And how to, perhaps, get what you seek. And if not, then to at least not get more bruised and battered by that around you.
I don’t mean to imply, either, that you don’t have valid bruises. I’ve seen much of what you talk about. I am often in the company of submissive men, I’m fairly observant and compassionate, I’ve witnessed it. I’ll second much of what you say about how submissive men are dismissed in social contexts, both vanilla and kink oriented.
So, to be clear, I’m not denying a thing that you say. I’m simply offering unasked-for-advice based on what I’ve observed. The submissive men I’ve witnessed who are most happy, most successful at getting their social/emotional/etc. needs met both in and out of kinky environs – are those who shift their perspective. Shift it not to deny who they are or the reality of the world around them, but shift it so that they don’t take personally that which isn’t personal. Sometimes even when it is.
And sometimes the best weapon to battle the narrow minded view of submissive men as less-than (or as completely ignorable) is to be a strong, intelligent submissive man.
Where ever you go is where you are. Sometimes the Mecca isn’t a place. Sometimes it is within you.
by maymay
19 Aug 2009 at 14:54
Sue, I don’t think I took the experience of the night I wrote about in this post personally. It was actually a pretty decent night, and predictably the worst parts of it were the parts that could be called “in the BDSM scene.” That’s really what I’m trying to highlight by having written this, since I think it’s noteworthy. After rolling my eyes, Fivestar grinned at me and said, “Tying up different bodies is different,” and I nodded, adding, “Even tying up different bodies of the same sex is going to be different.”
In any event, I do appreciate the advice, unsolicited as it may have been. :)
This is, of course, applicable to everyone and everything, not just submissive men or just sex. This is what’s particularly difficult for me, for reasons irrelevant to the core of this discussion, but it’s not something whose importance has escaped me.
by nome
19 Aug 2009 at 19:24
I think it is good to have high standards and don’t fault you one bit for feeling awkward in that situation. Perhaps that’s because I would have been far more awkward :p but whatever.
Anyhow, it’s good to see you posting again. This blog got quiet for a while, it seems. I look forward to reading your future posts.
by subversive_sub
19 Aug 2009 at 21:00
“As the evening progressed, the workshop facilitator called out to the group, ‘So, as you’re learning now, tying up boys and girls is different.’
In the next instant, a tall man wearing a ripped black t-shirt standing in front of a bound, nearly naked woman called back, ‘Yeah, girls are fun to tie up!’ I breathed a deep sigh of frustration and rolled my eyes, and most of the rest of my head, with what was very probably too much volume. I admit, I passed judgement on this man then and I decided I don’t like him.â€
If there were more people letting out loud, frustrated sighs and rolling their eyes when people said stuff like this at BDSM events, I might actually feel comfortable in that scene…but seriously, I do think there’s a difference between being judgmental and making a point to call out gender essentialism and heterosexism where it occurs. We can (or at least, should strive to) criticize and challenge people on their assumptions without judging them as people, without immediately writing them off.
And yeah, the whole “creating what you want if it doesn’t exist anywhere else.†That.
by maymay
19 Aug 2009 at 21:28
Yeah, this blog got a bit quite for a while, nome. Most of my energy went into things like MaleSubmissionArt.com and KinkForAll and so this blog got put on the back burner fora while.
It’s ultimately for us and other people like us who would have this reaction, subversive_sub, that I wrote this post, of course. One of the reason I write about what happens to me in these places is because I want to be able to reference it myself in the future and I want to be able to give other people a concrete place to relate their own experiences in other words. I think it’s really important that people hear this from us.
Oh, you’re absolutely spot on. I failed at that not-writing-him-off thing pretty miserably. I know I’m not the biggest person or the one with divine ethics. I’m just not that perfect as a person. The good news is that I disliked him so much so instantly that I have no idea what he looks like, so if I ever see him again, I’ll be more likely to give him a second first impression. :)
by Liras
19 Aug 2009 at 23:22
M, I think the only mecca that exists is the one in our heads. We just pick up fun objects to fill that space along the way.
I hope you have better experiences and learn good things in the days ahead.
by subversive_sub
20 Aug 2009 at 01:12
Of course, I should add, it’s not like *I’m* any better at the not-writing-off thing! I’d have reacted the exact same way. Possibly before he even opened his mouth.
by lalouve
20 Aug 2009 at 13:47
Reading this, I am struck with a combination of frustration and recognition…ah yes, this is what the scene looked like to me when I took a peek at it. I suspect I’m a bit spoilt with an environment of intelligent, non-normative people with open minds – and finding people in BDSM aren’t necessarily any of those things (though many of course are) was a bit depressing. I stay away from the local public scene because I have realised that even as a female dom, I am still expected to adapt to ‘sweet and submissive female’ stereotype whenever I’m not actually scening, and that was just never me.
I don’t think you’re bitter – or if you feel bitter, let me say I’ve seen vastly superior exhibitions of bitter and jealous ;) I think you’re a bit worn and disappointed. And I think we need to make our own BDSM Mecca, all of us who want something different, larger, more generous, and better.
by Bitsy
21 Aug 2009 at 11:14
I think everyone above me has said the other thoughts I’ve had on this post.
I’ve had many a conversation with my friends about how being a sexual minority doesn’t free you from the influence of other undesirable-to-me societal norms, and about how remarkably, to those of us with a toe in the queer community, hetero-naormative the BDSM community can be. But, I guess, most of the world has norms I’m not comfortable with, and in all of these places I just need to carve out my space.
(I guess I must also do this while admiting that I’ve used that my body meets some of larger society’s standers of attractiveness, including being female, to get myself what I want.)
by Elaine
23 Aug 2009 at 03:38
You most likely have no idea who I am, but I was one of the people who you met, had no substantial conversation with, and whose name you probably don’t remember. :) I thought I recognized you from something or other, and later realized that you are, indeed, the writer of this blog…but being shy, and it being my first time at SF Citadel, I stuck with the 2 people I knew and didn’t go over and say anything, for which I’m sorry. I probably would’ve come across fairly dorky, being fangirly over a blog-writer I know nothing about, but maybe it would’ve been better than doing nothing at all.
All that to say, I’m sorry your first experience there was not so pleasant. I don’t live in SF right now (was just there for a few months this summer) and I don’t know the kink community there, but I enjoyed many of my interactions with people within it. Of course, being female and frequently submissive means that my experience is going to be rather different from yours. Still, I sincerely hope that you find/make a space that is comfortable and happy for you.
by maymay
23 Aug 2009 at 05:36
Hi Elaine. Sadly, I don’t remember you and for that I am sorry. I do wish that if you did recognize me, or thought you did, that you would have told me, but I also understand what it’s like to be shy. Believe it or not, I am actually quite a shy person and it takes immense effort for me to be as outgoing as I may have seemed to be that night at the SF Citadel. Thank you also for acknowledging the inherent differences in experience that you, “being female and frequently submissive”, and I would have. It is precisely because of that difference that I have had to adapt to being more outgoing and less shy, y’know?
Anywho, if you’re ever back in the Bay Area, look me up (I’m easy to contact). I’d love to meet you and have a significant conversation. I like dorks, being one and all, and from my vantage point, there’s not a whole lot about this blog to be fangirly about. I would, however, love to hear your thoughts on what I write.
by SJ
27 Aug 2009 at 11:46
I mostly skimmed the comments, so, I apologize if this has already been mentioned and I missed it. To the best of my understanding, charging an admittance fee has specific legal consequences, and a suggested donation has distinct legal consequences. That’s why many of the museums I’ve visited have suggested donations, though admittedly they hide that it’s a suggestion in fine print. It is my sense that donations are a better choice for not-for-profits, because of the legal consequences. Of course, IANAL.
So, yes, the thing is irksome. I sometimes play with the donation, giving more, or questioning if it is in fact mandatory. I’ve not been barred from attendence yet.
by nell
28 Aug 2009 at 03:08
We should go to an event together one of these days! I’d be more than happy to trade off ties, and I’m always more hesitant to go to these workshops and things alone.
by maymay
28 Aug 2009 at 03:28
@nell: Sure! Sounds fun. :) Let me know what and when you’re interested in going to and maybe we can go together. I’m also more hesitant to go to anything of this nature alone. That’s one reason why I so badly want to see more events where the format doesn’t encourage participants to pair off or to focus on a single point, like a lecturer.
by Nameless
30 Aug 2009 at 19:45
“That boy is bitter and jealous, negative and malicious”
Admittedly I know nothing of you but what I read on this blog, but those are just about the last adjectives I’d associate with you. But I can see why you might think that others would think so – I always think that people must think that of me.
I identify a lot with the feelings you describe here. I feel the same way most of the time. Not specifically on The Scene, which I have yet to venture anywhere near (partly because the bloggers I most respect always make it sound hellish and partly because I so thoroughly loathe what little I’ve seen and heard of it from friends who do spend time out there), but in basically every social settings. The older I get, the harder I find it to be around people, the more frustrated and disappointed and alienated I feel. And yes, of course, it’s because of the way I am. If I were able to go with the flow and enjoy people the way they are, I’d be a much happier bunny. I do try. I really do. Sometimes I succeed, for a while. But mostly I don’t. I’m just not built that way. I want things to be *better*. And they almost never are.
It’s not that I think I’m better than other people. I say plenty of stupid things, especially around stranger, and then mentally tear my hair at what an arse I sounded. I fully acknowledge I’m as flawed as anyone else. It’s just that I’m far too aware of everyone’s flaws (mine included), just like I’m too aware of sensations that other people don’t even notice – the noise we make when we eat, the feel or mud or dirt or sand on my skin – perfectly normal things that don’t bother most people, but drive me up the wall.
by Lex
05 Sep 2009 at 07:41
Oh, gross! And here was me, thinking that having moved back to California from an island country with a total population of less than LA County, I’d trip on a rock and fall into the sparkly unicorn rainbowland of kink, where people are intelligent and aware of all the complex, inevitable issues of gender and heteronormativity that need to be explored before and after and inside power exchange. And in this ice cream palace, I could learn from the wise older folks, and sit crosslegged on a sofa and buy interesting people milkshakes and talk for hourrrrs about our very favorite people, and why Anita Blake is a totally repugnant protagonist and a horrible model for any kind of sexuality, and what we’re looking for in our lives and relationships, and how bdsm can be a goal and a vehicle and a fabulous, glittery playground of new possibilities. And then maybe someone would get bent over a chair and caned until there was nothing in their head but glorious white noise and sleepy-eyed surrender. And then there would be hugs.
No, I am actually serious. This is what I thought. I was all bright-eyed and dewy-cheeked looking forward to it, and Citadel was so on my list when I pass through the Bay Area this winter, but now I’m kind of thinking that throwing my baby face into this scene would possibly cause me to stroke the fuck out on the sidewalk from throbbing rage overload. UTTER BUMMER. Are you going to continue testing the waters? If so, do you mind if I follow your adventures, as my opposite-sex* mineshaft canary?
*which, hey, not the same as gender, and uh-oh — how much pig-ignorance of that kind of thing am I about to take a faceplant into, I wonder? The more I look at the menu for these gatherings, not to mention troll through forums, articles, and blogs, the less I’m sure that there’s actually anywhere for me to learn the things I would need to learn to be an effective and mindful female-bodied dominant. With less than zero interest in being an empty eyed and stilettoed male-gaze fetish object droning porntastic lines about pink temples and worthlessness. What do I do? Do I go with a non-kinky friend (this is all my RL friends) as my rear guard? Do I just get ready to field the repellent braggadocio of leathermen who are totes sure that what a saucy young lady truly needs is the firm discipline of a real man?
by Stilllearning
05 Sep 2009 at 09:31
The ever powerfully, Instictively, present drive to Show off your viryl peacock feathers is there for a good reason. Agree or not, one thing is certain: eloquence is extremely sexy.
by lucie
07 Sep 2009 at 17:25
Hi maymay,
I am replying to a comment that you left in my IJ. I fell in love with your site when I stumbled across it and just had to promote it. There seemed to be a lot of people who knew about it already, but there were lots of new people who had not seen the site before.
I love your comments below each image, the way that you express the emotions and feelings that each image invokes for you. I am not sure that I could ever be so eloquent about the images but i so often agree with every word that you write. I find many of the images very evocative and moving as well as sexy and erotic. I am fascinated by the male submissive image in either art or fiction, I feel that in our society (and by that I mean the western society, because that is the one which I have experience of) men are forced into a dominant role, whether they wish to be or not. Men are not supposed to express emotion or display any weakness and yet your images show the beauty in allowing oneself to show fragility (not weakness as it takes such strength for a man to show something that is not the culturally accepted norm).
The images that I like the best are those which hint at that fragility. The curled fist,the hands tied behind a naked back with a red ribbon. The ones that I am less certain of are the ones in which the model looks uncomfortable, August 23rd for example. I thought about this for sometime before posting this, because I wondered if it was the fact that the man looks so ‘traditionally masculine’, but I don’t think this is the case. I just want to turn him over and make him more comfortable! *g*
I’ve been without a proper Internet connection for several days, so I apologise for my tardy reply.
Please do keep up the hard work, and if I find any images that I think might suit the site, I’ll get in touch.
*hugs*
Lucie xxx
by Nabil
12 Sep 2009 at 23:50
Hey MayMay,
Welcome to San Francisco! I’ve been out here ten years, having moved from DC/ Virginia, and I’ve been able to find folks out here who I relate to a lot more then I did in the South. That said, SF ain’t paradise– in some ways it’s a very rough town to land in, especially if you don’t already have friends who can introduce you to quality people– and I’m having feelings of sympathy and cheerleading for you as you try to make this shift. I personally think it’s worth it to stay long enough, and give the city enough second chances, to find a niche for yourself. But it’s not an easy process, and you have all of my empathy and best wishes whether you decide to stick around or not.
Me, I’ve never made friends at the Citadel. I make friends through friends, or through queer support groups, or through the queer literary scene. I’m a writer, and I think I have better chances of finding folks I like through being around writers then through sex parties. One thing about SF is that enough folks here are kinky that you can meet folks through non-kink contexts, and have decent odds that they’re kinky. Me, I find the folks whose primary identification is kinky are often kinda boring/ irritating/ mainstream. It’s like, if you’re a white straight guy with a great job, maybe the freakiest thing about you is that you’re kinky and you base your life around that. But if you’re queer/ transexual/ mixed race/ Arab American, then being kinky frankly isn’t that big a deal. Just to name a totally hypothetical example involving nobody I know, of course. :)
If you wanted unsolicited advice from me, I’d say go to some art events. Check out Larry-Bob’s queer things to do in the Bay, and go to readings. Good on you for having taught yourself to be extroverted– it’s hard for us shy people to do! Say hi to people who write stuff you like, hang around after the show and ask if anybody’s going to Sparky’s. Hell, tell em Nabil sent you and said to treat you nice.
There’s also tons of support for folks who aren’t into rigid binary norms in the city. I used to go to United Genders of the Universe meetings, and met some folks through that I like a lot. (Although of course most of the folks I met dropped off– but most folks you meet through any venue don’t stick around, right?) A neat thing about United Genders is that you don’t have to be trans to go to meetings– just believe that there are more then two genders. So, you get a pretty cool mix of folks. And though the group isn’t about kinky, most of us who went regularly were kinky. :)
In terms of specifically kink groups, I looooove screwup, the kink discussion group for trans folks & our friends. Again, you don’t have to be trans– or male, or female, or kinky, or whatever– to go to meetings– just interested in talking about kink stuff in a trans-friendly way. Screwup comes from a punk/ DIY/ anarchisty perspective, which means the group changes radically as different folks move in and out of organizing the meetings. Sometimes it’s more demo-ey in a way that might annoy you. (Although binary-gender statements would not be considered acceptable at a screwup rope demo. We had a really neat one last year on rope bondage & gender– what types of rope bondage emphasize masculine characteristics vs feminine, some of the specifics that come up with tying up trans bodies, and other cool shit.) Screwup has hosted some really profound discussions about sexuality and kink and gender– the conversation we had about disability and sex, about how to have embodied sex with all our physical limitations and bad memories and scars, is something that I hold quite precious in my memory.
That said, I think a new batch of organizers have come in and they might piss you off. *shrug* It’s generally switch-friendly, non-sexist, and a hellofa more friendly then stuff at the Citadel.
(I kind of have snobby feelings about the Citadel. I’ve had good times playing there with the people I’ve brought there– but I have seldom met anyone interesting there. :)
You also might want to check out Perverts Put Out, before Folsom. It’s a neat literary event, a really cool reading. I’ll probably be there, dressed extravagantly and bouncing around the place– ask somebody where Nabil is and come say hi.
Again, you have my sympathy and respect at having moved to this rough city, with a history of bad experiences, and struggling to make a place with yourself despite your justifiable bitterness. It’s damn hard to stay open-hearted and loving when folks have been shitting on you for years. Believe me, I know. I’m a submissive guy too, and that’s one of the least discriminated-against minority groups I belong to. :) I hope you’re able to find a good spot in the city, and a whole lot of folks are rooting for you. Count me among them.
xoxo
Nabil
by maymay
14 Sep 2009 at 16:34
@Nameless: Yeah, I think I can relate to where you’re coming from. Being “good” at being in social situations is a learned skill. It didn’t come naturally to me; I had to learn it myself, and I’m still learning how to do a lot of it, because there’s so little in the mainstream that prepares people for doing this. There’s even fewer role models to look up to when you happen to be a submissively-inclined man.
@Lex: When I was a teenager, I had similar delusions that the BDSM “scene” would be a place of paradise. Sadly, this delusion was replaced with some of the most emotionally painful experiences of my life that, to this day, make me cry if I think about them too much. It was quite a shock to the teenage-me, and I wish I could go back in time and warn myself of what was happening. Maybe one day I’ll even write about those experiences on this blog or elsewhere. I actually have several draft posts that have remained drafts for almost 4 years because I just can’t bring myself to complete them. I’m not exaggerating; it hurts that much.
Anyway, you asked:
Of course I will. I’m uncertain how much more time I’ll be spending at the Citadel, but of course you’re welcome to follow my (mis-)”adventures”. Why would I write a public blog if I didn’t want the company? :)
Um…a lot, sadly. I can’t give you the first-hand accounts of things young women have experienced, but there are a number of great bloggers who can. Good luck.
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by Janelle F
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Your self-awareness of much of the unpleasantness coming from within is important. I understand that feeling and those predispositions. Perhaps just be yourself and don’t try to squeeze into ill-fitting molds. By being you, you just may attract like-minded folks. I think much of what holds us back is fear.
Great post. Very honest and personal. I appreciate that :)
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by Byrdie
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This post reminded me to go digging for my copy of Van Darkholme’s “Male Bondage”. It’s not a how-to book, but with my other references I’m sure that I could figure out how most of the work was done.
Well, that and it’s freakin’ hot.
Given that I’ve only ever tried to practice rope on men, I’m not sure if women would be more fun. Both can be squishy, muscular, or bony. Seems to be that a lot of the same issues apply based on body type with a few adjustments for plumbing if one wants to do something specific with genitalia. Or maybe I’m just simplifying everything.